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My Galaxy Nexus runs stock ICS and has fluidity issues, FWIW, and I'm not an Apple enthusiast. In particular, I've noticed problems switching in and out of the

My Galaxy Nexus runs stock ICS and has fluidity issues, FWIW, and I'm not an Apple enthusiast. In particular, I've noticed problems switching in and out of the camera app, problems with the contact picture pop up, and with the music player.

joenathan 14y ago
You are fooling yourself if you think the iPhone is always smooth all the time, every device experiences hiccups at times. Android used to be worse at this but has come a long way with 4.0.
- moe 14y ago
  You are fooling yourself if you think the iPhone is always smooth all the time, every device experiences hiccups at times. When I read such claims I can't help but wonder, have you even used an iOS device recently? It's a night/day difference for the constant touch-lag alone. On iOS the screen "sticks" to your finger, on android it runs noticeably behind and even the simplest screens choke. I can't remember having ever experienced an unexplained "hiccup" on iOS. An app may take a second to open/close/switch. When something loads then there might even be a brief pause. But these are very rare and expected. That's a fundamental difference to android where random, unpredictable chokes are the norm.
  - joenathan 14y ago
    Here is a video of my 2 year old Nexus S running ICS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCy_urYqDEM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCy_urYqDEM I am going to assume that your aren't trolling and just aren't familiar with what you are talking about. I was using a 3rd gen iPad just a couple of days ago where the keyboard choked for a good second when I opened the browser and tried to type right away. iOS has advantages when it comes to speed for sure. One of the big things is the user can't screw it up like they can on Android, I've seen many Android phones that are the equivalent of Internet Explorer with 15 toolbars. Android has true multitasking and unfortunately that means that you have to be aware of the apps that you install aren't crappilly coded and running in the background eating CPU and RAM. I think
    - moe 14y ago
      Talk about cognitive dissonance. I see close to a 500ms lag on your homescreen swipes. Here's a screenshot I took of your video at second 7: http://f.cl.ly/items/2Q2o1n3o1V252e0g3i0e/007.jpg http://f.cl.ly/items/2Q2o1n3o1V252e0g3i0e/007.jpg Note where your finger is in that shot. It has already lost contact with the screen after the swiping motion. Meanwhile the screen hasn't even begun transitioning. This may not bother you. But let's not pretend the latency doesn't exist when it fills enough frames in a low-quality youtube video to take a blur-free screenshot. Edit: The issue is also documented here; http://gigaom.com/mobile/video-android-touch-lag-and-a-possible-solution/ http://gigaom.com/mobile/video-android-touch-lag-and-a-possi...
      - joenathan 14y ago
        There where a few mis-swipes because of the way i was filming/holding the phone, not only that but I have a lot of widgets, which add to the latency of home switching, which you can tell the difference when I'm switching in the app drawer. Also that isn't a low quality youtube video, it was filmed at 1080p. Finally Gigaom is an Apple news site/blog not exactly the place one would go to get unbiased news/reports.
        moe 14y ago
        There where a few mis-swipes because of the way i was filming/holding the phone The screenshot is not from a mis-swipe. Your phone did react - it just took long enough for me to press pause (on a video that was playing realtime!) and take a screenshot. you can tell the difference when I'm switching in the app drawer Well, at least we're making progress and you're acknowledging the problem now. Finally Gigaom is an Apple news site/blog not exactly the place one would go to get unbiased news/reports. Grasping straws now? The issue is widely documented (the GigaOM article contains sources). And the video is pretty self-evident anyway, unless you want to allege them of faking it.
        blinkingled 14y ago
        At this point I think you are either very biased or <forget it I will spare you the T word>. Here is what The Verge had to say about HTC One X with ICS - "I can't lodge a single complaint about the One X's performance, though — this phone screams, and it has the benchmark scores to back it up. I used the phone as my primary device for a full week and can't recall a single incidence of lag or stutter anywhere in the user interface. That's saying something, because Android phones that initially appear to be fast have a tendency to "bog down" over time and during certain operations like app updates and account syncs, but not the One X — it was smooth sailing at all times." I am sure you can find something laggy if you keep looking for it - you can buy the most lacking Android device and then complain about it all you want - but newer flagship Android devices have pretty much eliminated the lag issues with OS and Hardware assistance (Tegra3 has direct touch for e.g. and even Gruber found ICS much nicer!).

joenathan 14y ago

You are fooling yourself if you think the iPhone is always smooth all the time, every device experiences hiccups at times. Android used to be worse at this but has come a long way with 4.0.

moe 14y ago
You are fooling yourself if you think the iPhone is always smooth all the time, every device experiences hiccups at times. When I read such claims I can't help but wonder, have you even used an iOS device recently? It's a night/day difference for the constant touch-lag alone. On iOS the screen "sticks" to your finger, on android it runs noticeably behind and even the simplest screens choke. I can't remember having ever experienced an unexplained "hiccup" on iOS. An app may take a second to open/close/switch. When something loads then there might even be a brief pause. But these are very rare and expected. That's a fundamental difference to android where random, unpredictable chokes are the norm.
- joenathan 14y ago
  Here is a video of my 2 year old Nexus S running ICS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCy_urYqDEM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCy_urYqDEM I am going to assume that your aren't trolling and just aren't familiar with what you are talking about. I was using a 3rd gen iPad just a couple of days ago where the keyboard choked for a good second when I opened the browser and tried to type right away. iOS has advantages when it comes to speed for sure. One of the big things is the user can't screw it up like they can on Android, I've seen many Android phones that are the equivalent of Internet Explorer with 15 toolbars. Android has true multitasking and unfortunately that means that you have to be aware of the apps that you install aren't crappilly coded and running in the background eating CPU and RAM. I think
  - moe 14y ago
    Talk about cognitive dissonance. I see close to a 500ms lag on your homescreen swipes. Here's a screenshot I took of your video at second 7: http://f.cl.ly/items/2Q2o1n3o1V252e0g3i0e/007.jpg http://f.cl.ly/items/2Q2o1n3o1V252e0g3i0e/007.jpg Note where your finger is in that shot. It has already lost contact with the screen after the swiping motion. Meanwhile the screen hasn't even begun transitioning. This may not bother you. But let's not pretend the latency doesn't exist when it fills enough frames in a low-quality youtube video to take a blur-free screenshot. Edit: The issue is also documented here; http://gigaom.com/mobile/video-android-touch-lag-and-a-possible-solution/ http://gigaom.com/mobile/video-android-touch-lag-and-a-possi...
    - joenathan 14y ago
      There where a few mis-swipes because of the way i was filming/holding the phone, not only that but I have a lot of widgets, which add to the latency of home switching, which you can tell the difference when I'm switching in the app drawer. Also that isn't a low quality youtube video, it was filmed at 1080p. Finally Gigaom is an Apple news site/blog not exactly the place one would go to get unbiased news/reports.
      - moe 14y ago
        There where a few mis-swipes because of the way i was filming/holding the phone The screenshot is not from a mis-swipe. Your phone did react - it just took long enough for me to press pause (on a video that was playing realtime!) and take a screenshot. you can tell the difference when I'm switching in the app drawer Well, at least we're making progress and you're acknowledging the problem now. Finally Gigaom is an Apple news site/blog not exactly the place one would go to get unbiased news/reports. Grasping straws now? The issue is widely documented (the GigaOM article contains sources). And the video is pretty self-evident anyway, unless you want to allege them of faking it.
        blinkingled 14y ago
        At this point I think you are either very biased or <forget it I will spare you the T word>. Here is what The Verge had to say about HTC One X with ICS - "I can't lodge a single complaint about the One X's performance, though — this phone screams, and it has the benchmark scores to back it up. I used the phone as my primary device for a full week and can't recall a single incidence of lag or stutter anywhere in the user interface. That's saying something, because Android phones that initially appear to be fast have a tendency to "bog down" over time and during certain operations like app updates and account syncs, but not the One X — it was smooth sailing at all times." I am sure you can find something laggy if you keep looking for it - you can buy the most lacking Android device and then complain about it all you want - but newer flagship Android devices have pretty much eliminated the lag issues with OS and Hardware assistance (Tegra3 has direct touch for e.g. and even Gruber found ICS much nicer!).