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I'm particularly interested to see what Apple does to evolve the OS. Better window management, different kinds of interactions, there's a lot of potential. But

by TillE 3y ago

I'm particularly interested to see what Apple does to evolve the OS. Better window management, different kinds of interactions, there's a lot of potential. But for now it seems the hardware itself isn't quite there yet. Everything from the fit (light seals, straps) to the battery to the displays and lenses could be better. I just listened to the latest ATP, and even grumpy old man John Siracusa was blown away by the VR experience. I'm sitting out this one, but I'm pretty excited for the second or third gen.

jedberg 3y ago
> I'm sitting out this one, but I'm pretty excited for the second or third gen. What's funny is that at this point Apple has a reputation for "the 2nd/3rd gen is the first good one". And I wonder how many people are waiting it out, which means we won't get their feedback until then, which means now it will be the 4th or 5th gen that's good. My assumption being what makes the 2nd/3rd generation good is because they incorporate all the user feedback when making those versions.
- adt2bt 3y ago
  I think Apple probably already knows what the 2nd or 3rd gen look like mostly now, anyway. They most likely don’t commit to a product line like Vision without a multi year roadmap in place, and have to make a cut line eventually to launch v1 which includes some obvious drawbacks they can improve. Add on to that, I think they have more of a culture of looking past feedback to figure out the key new tech that’s available now and building towards that, rather than just responding to user feedback directly (though they clearly do that, too).
  - PlunderBunny 3y ago
    Yes - if it’s anything like the iPhone, the features of the second generation will be pretty much finalised by now, and they will be well into planning the third generation.
- ant6n 3y ago
  Im still sitting out the Mx Air. But the MacBook Air M3 may end up being too expensive, so I may sit that one out as well.
- kj99 3y ago
  I don’t think it works like this - the current AVP is incredible, but I can’t think of a single friend who I’d actually recommend it to. I’ve demoed it to (regular non-tech) people over FaceTime, and they are completely blown away by it. I don’t think you need much feedback to know what needs to happen. - it needs to be lighter - it needs to be cheaper - it needs more apps Apple will sell every AVP they can make because the can’t make very many of this current design. I don’t think anything will be delayed.

by TillE 3y ago

jedberg 3y ago

> I'm sitting out this one, but I'm pretty excited for the second or third gen. What's funny is that at this point Apple has a reputation for "the 2nd/3rd gen is the first good one". And I wonder how many people are waiting it out, which means we won't get their feedback until then, which means now it will be the 4th or 5th gen that's good. My assumption being what makes the 2nd/3rd generation good is because they incorporate all the user feedback when making those versions.

adt2bt 3y ago
I think Apple probably already knows what the 2nd or 3rd gen look like mostly now, anyway. They most likely don’t commit to a product line like Vision without a multi year roadmap in place, and have to make a cut line eventually to launch v1 which includes some obvious drawbacks they can improve. Add on to that, I think they have more of a culture of looking past feedback to figure out the key new tech that’s available now and building towards that, rather than just responding to user feedback directly (though they clearly do that, too).
- PlunderBunny 3y ago
  Yes - if it’s anything like the iPhone, the features of the second generation will be pretty much finalised by now, and they will be well into planning the third generation.
ant6n 3y ago
Im still sitting out the Mx Air. But the MacBook Air M3 may end up being too expensive, so I may sit that one out as well.
kj99 3y ago
I don’t think it works like this - the current AVP is incredible, but I can’t think of a single friend who I’d actually recommend it to. I’ve demoed it to (regular non-tech) people over FaceTime, and they are completely blown away by it. I don’t think you need much feedback to know what needs to happen. - it needs to be lighter - it needs to be cheaper - it needs more apps Apple will sell every AVP they can make because the can’t make very many of this current design. I don’t think anything will be delayed.