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> - Ukraine is saying crazy things, like laying claims to part of Russia. Do you have any links to this? I am not aware of Ukraine laying claim to any part of
by jcranmer 3y ago
> - Ukraine is saying crazy things, like laying claims to part of Russia.
Do you have any links to this? I am not aware of Ukraine laying claim to any part of Russia, asides from those parts that the international community still regards as Ukrainian territory that Russia illegally annexed (namely, Crimea, Donbass, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson).
- khokhol 3y agoYep, that's literally what is being said -- that Crimea, Donbas, Kherson etc are of course "part of Russia" and that it is Ukraine which is "laying claim" to those regions. Which is completely backasswards of course. But because a well-spoken, powerful man on TV (who also aligns with his geopolitical / moral views), in this case Putin, is saying those things -- a lot of folks have no problem believing it. Ditto with the supposed "coup" in 2014 (which is somewhat more nuanced, but not all that nuanced or hard to figure out). And not only believing this nonsensse - but sucking it up as if it were air. BTW strictly speaking, we don't know if the grandparent actually believes in these particular bullet points -- they aren't saying this is what they believe, only "this is what politicians are saying." But it's basically in tune with other misconceptions that they (the grandparent) has been putting forth in this thread.