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A guy tracked his stolen truck to CP railyard. Police was sitting outside the railcar that had his truck inside. Police could do nothing because the railyard is

A guy tracked his stolen truck to CP railyard. Police was sitting outside the railcar that had his truck inside. Police could do nothing because the railyard is outside their jurisdiction. Train left, he watched on the tracker as his truck was eventually shipped to Dubai. So.. I think CP rail is maybe a co-conspirator here? They have immunity from local law enforcement, and don't seem to require any title checks to move vehicles across border. https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2306728515530 https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2306728515530

dcan 3y ago
There’s only three federal police agencies - the RCMP, CPKC Police Service, and the CN Police Service. The local law enforcement has to pass off the information to the relevant agency to abide by the separations of power. The problem here is probably the criminal lied about what was in the cargo container, and to process the tens of thousands of titles to ship new vehicles to manufacturers is obscene - and even then, criminals will still find ways to transport cars in shipping containers. At the end of the day, it’s up to the ports (which again are a federal agency) to scrutinize cargo containers destined for these locations - which they don’t have the staffing or funds to do.
- andy99 3y ago
  > At the end of the day, it’s up to the ports (which again are a federal agency) to scrutinize cargo containers destined for these locations - which they don’t have the staffing or funds to do. And now they'll be stretched further inspecting incoming shipments for flipper zeros.
- Eddy_Viscosity2 3y ago
  In this case a local police officer was at the location where the stolen vehicle, and probably hundreds of others were. There was no CN police present. In cases where there are no CN police, then local police should automatically get jurisdiction. Otherwise, like in this case, criminals just get a free pass. > to process the tens of thousands of titles to ship new vehicles to manufacturers is obscene - and even then, criminals will still find ways to transport cars in shipping containers. What whining is this about? Are you suggesting that we just let the thefts continue at scale using rail because 'paper work hard'? Are you serious?
  - BXLE_1-1-BitIs1 3y ago
    The gangs are making up phony shipping and customs manifests and hiding behind the rail and port authorities, who are enabling the gangs. It's going to take some manpower, but every container going overseas will have to be inspected during loading. The government's "solution" is putting in high tech x million dollar scanners that will take years to implement while the gangs keep stealing and shipping.
    - Eddy_Viscosity2 3y ago
      For this example, a scanner does nothing. All it will do is tell you that there was a truck there. But in this case the existence of vehicles on the train were not in question - it was about the ownership of them. It should be much harder to fake shipping manifests and every VIN should be manually verified and against a database of stolen.
pcthrowaway 3y ago
Why not... hop the fence and get the conductor to radio the police? The fine for tresspassing on CP railway property is $500, likely worth less than the cost of the car. Once you're over the fence, as you said the police on the other side don't have jurisdiction. Getting CP police there to fine you allows them to intercept the truck also

dcan 3y ago

There’s only three federal police agencies - the RCMP, CPKC Police Service, and the CN Police Service. The local law enforcement has to pass off the information to the relevant agency to abide by the separations of power. The problem here is probably the criminal lied about what was in the cargo container, and to process the tens of thousands of titles to ship new vehicles to manufacturers is obscene - and even then, criminals will still find ways to transport cars in shipping containers. At the end of the day, it’s up to the ports (which again are a federal agency) to scrutinize cargo containers destined for these locations - which they don’t have the staffing or funds to do.

andy99 3y ago
> At the end of the day, it’s up to the ports (which again are a federal agency) to scrutinize cargo containers destined for these locations - which they don’t have the staffing or funds to do. And now they'll be stretched further inspecting incoming shipments for flipper zeros.
Eddy_Viscosity2 3y ago
In this case a local police officer was at the location where the stolen vehicle, and probably hundreds of others were. There was no CN police present. In cases where there are no CN police, then local police should automatically get jurisdiction. Otherwise, like in this case, criminals just get a free pass. > to process the tens of thousands of titles to ship new vehicles to manufacturers is obscene - and even then, criminals will still find ways to transport cars in shipping containers. What whining is this about? Are you suggesting that we just let the thefts continue at scale using rail because 'paper work hard'? Are you serious?
- BXLE_1-1-BitIs1 3y ago
  The gangs are making up phony shipping and customs manifests and hiding behind the rail and port authorities, who are enabling the gangs. It's going to take some manpower, but every container going overseas will have to be inspected during loading. The government's "solution" is putting in high tech x million dollar scanners that will take years to implement while the gangs keep stealing and shipping.
  - Eddy_Viscosity2 3y ago
    For this example, a scanner does nothing. All it will do is tell you that there was a truck there. But in this case the existence of vehicles on the train were not in question - it was about the ownership of them. It should be much harder to fake shipping manifests and every VIN should be manually verified and against a database of stolen.

pcthrowaway 3y ago

Why not... hop the fence and get the conductor to radio the police? The fine for tresspassing on CP railway property is $500, likely worth less than the cost of the car. Once you're over the fence, as you said the police on the other side don't have jurisdiction. Getting CP police there to fine you allows them to intercept the truck also