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This was in the 1990s. Historical Fascism is unpopular. It’s made a come back in Italy and India. But the modern, far-right neofascists admire Israel more th

This was in the 1990s. Historical Fascism is unpopular. It’s made a come back in Italy and India. But the modern, far-right neofascists admire Israel more than the Third Reich. The resurgence of the far-right began in the early 2000s when Jörg Haider‘s Freedom Party took power in Austria and Jean-Marie le Pen made the run-off in France. It got much more powerful during the financial crisis of 2008 and the migration crisis caused by the Arab Spring in the mid 2010s. It’s not a mystery why people are pissed off and looking for non-mainstream candidates. A big mystery is why the far-left has vanished. The Occupy Protests fizzled out, Jeffrey Corbyn imploded the Labour Party, and Jacobin put up a paywall.

wolverine876 3y ago
> This was in the 1990s. Interesting! > It’s not a mystery why people are pissed off and looking for non-mainstream candidates. Why are they? Generally, economies are doing well, there is peace - at least, they were until the fascists started disrupting it. > It’s made a come back in Italy and India. Hungary, Poland, US, Russia, Brazil, El Salvador, ... where does it end? > A big mystery is why the far-left has vanished. Agreed, and even the moderately left.
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- pasabagi 3y ago
  Inflation in basic goods and exorbitant rents mean that a lot of people are struggling far more than GDP-style indicators would imply. There's also secular decline in a lot of southern european manufacturing, so the economic basis for stable income and family life in a lot of places just isn't there anymore.
  - wolverine876 3y ago
    That would seem to lean people toward the left wing, which supports workers, not the right, which supports the wealthy and powerful.
    - pyuser583 3y ago
      The left wing is also very pro-immigration and globalization. That’s the big wedge issue for the far right - migration of people and capital. When their factory closes down and is moved to a cheaper country, might the workers be worried about open borders?
      - wolverine876 3y ago
        > The left wing is also very pro-... globalization. That conflates the centrists, including left and right (when there was a center-right) with the left. The progressive left was always dubious at best about globalization, iirc. The migration thing is, to a great extent, people inflaming ethnic hatred. People like open borders when they want to migrate themselves, or hire migrants; it also brings trade and tourism; it brings peace and eliminates pointless political distinctions. I agree that globalization needs to address the relatively easy mobility of capital relative to labor. But that problem is arguably extreme capitalism - where the capitalists get whatever they want - not globalization. Globalization writ by labor would have looked a lot different.
        pyuser583 3y ago
        Actual “labor” has a strong social conservative streak, especially in regards to migration. Notice the protests by farmers, truckers, etc. The progressive left in America is formed in heavily globalized universities. They are 100% in support of globalization, as they are beneficiaries and producers of it. I don’t know where the “heart and soul” of the European progressive left is. Other than Spanish socialists, I don’t think there are many.
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wolverine876 3y ago

> This was in the 1990s. Interesting! > It’s not a mystery why people are pissed off and looking for non-mainstream candidates. Why are they? Generally, economies are doing well, there is peace - at least, they were until the fascists started disrupting it. > It’s made a come back in Italy and India. Hungary, Poland, US, Russia, Brazil, El Salvador, ... where does it end? > A big mystery is why the far-left has vanished. Agreed, and even the moderately left.

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pasabagi 3y ago
Inflation in basic goods and exorbitant rents mean that a lot of people are struggling far more than GDP-style indicators would imply. There's also secular decline in a lot of southern european manufacturing, so the economic basis for stable income and family life in a lot of places just isn't there anymore.
- wolverine876 3y ago
  That would seem to lean people toward the left wing, which supports workers, not the right, which supports the wealthy and powerful.
  - pyuser583 3y ago
    The left wing is also very pro-immigration and globalization. That’s the big wedge issue for the far right - migration of people and capital. When their factory closes down and is moved to a cheaper country, might the workers be worried about open borders?
    - wolverine876 3y ago
      > The left wing is also very pro-... globalization. That conflates the centrists, including left and right (when there was a center-right) with the left. The progressive left was always dubious at best about globalization, iirc. The migration thing is, to a great extent, people inflaming ethnic hatred. People like open borders when they want to migrate themselves, or hire migrants; it also brings trade and tourism; it brings peace and eliminates pointless political distinctions. I agree that globalization needs to address the relatively easy mobility of capital relative to labor. But that problem is arguably extreme capitalism - where the capitalists get whatever they want - not globalization. Globalization writ by labor would have looked a lot different.
      - pyuser583 3y ago
        Actual “labor” has a strong social conservative streak, especially in regards to migration. Notice the protests by farmers, truckers, etc. The progressive left in America is formed in heavily globalized universities. They are 100% in support of globalization, as they are beneficiaries and producers of it. I don’t know where the “heart and soul” of the European progressive left is. Other than Spanish socialists, I don’t think there are many.
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