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iCloud’s Hide My Email is perfect for this. No “+” convention, it just generates a random @icloud.com email address specifically for whatever website/app you’re

iCloud’s Hide My Email is perfect for this. No “+” convention, it just generates a random @icloud.com email address specifically for whatever website/app you’re signing up for, and forwards it to your real email. The random addresses are indistinguishable from real iCloud.com email addresses, there’s no naming convention a website can reject. I never worry about sites that require signups any more, I just autogenerate an email for them and use a fake name. I couldn’t give a shit less if they get hacked or leak data, because the email and password are randomly generated. If they turn out to spam me I just disable that email address and never hear from them again. The only people who have my “real” email addresses are people I know personally.

FireBeyond 3y ago
> The random addresses are indistinguishable from real iCloud.com email addresses, there’s no naming convention a website can reject. That's not remotely true. The very very very vast majority of actual iCloud email addresses are going to have "dictionary" names. It's quite trivial to detect a randomized address (and at that point, you probably don't even care about a couple of false positives). Multiple instances of letter-number-letter-number ("b2y4r")? Coupled with letter combinations that don't exist in most languages ("ytbn")? And no dictionary words ("john", "smith", "booklover")? Random address. Now, whether you care to do business with someone who detects this is a different question altogether. But they are absolutely distinguishable.
- ninkendo 3y ago
  The auto-generated addresses also have dictionary names. They’re explicitly designed to look like addresses that a real person might come up with… typically a dictionary word, followed by some numbers and symbols. Just like other email addresses on popular services where all the good names are taken.
  - FireBeyond 3y ago
    The ones I've seen are like a987dfc429be@icloud.com. Same with Private Relay: here's one of mine (with one character changed) - 2he5rs923s@privaterelay.appleid.com
    - ninkendo 3y ago
      You’re thinking about something else. There’s a thing called “Sign In With Apple” that is available when an app/website wants to offer it, that integrates with Apple’s authentication system. The email the app/website sees is a bunch of random characters followed by @privaterelay.appleid.com. But Sign In With Apple is not the same as Hide My Email. SIWA is for when the website opts into Apple as an auth provider. I just looked at my alias list in iCloud and every single “hide my email” alias looks like a plausible @icloud.com address with dictionary words, and every “sign in with Apple” address is using the privaterelay address with the super random characters. There are no addresses that look like a987dfc429be@icloud.com.
hsshah 3y ago
Have you ever had to reply 'from' a random iCloud email? Is it possible? I faced that with Costco support. My method is custom email on personal domain name. Had to setup email alias in gmail to do so. Was a pain.

FireBeyond 3y ago

> The random addresses are indistinguishable from real iCloud.com email addresses, there’s no naming convention a website can reject. That's not remotely true. The very very very vast majority of actual iCloud email addresses are going to have "dictionary" names. It's quite trivial to detect a randomized address (and at that point, you probably don't even care about a couple of false positives). Multiple instances of letter-number-letter-number ("b2y4r")? Coupled with letter combinations that don't exist in most languages ("ytbn")? And no dictionary words ("john", "smith", "booklover")? Random address. Now, whether you care to do business with someone who detects this is a different question altogether. But they are absolutely distinguishable.

ninkendo 3y ago
The auto-generated addresses also have dictionary names. They’re explicitly designed to look like addresses that a real person might come up with… typically a dictionary word, followed by some numbers and symbols. Just like other email addresses on popular services where all the good names are taken.
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  The ones I've seen are like a987dfc429be@icloud.com. Same with Private Relay: here's one of mine (with one character changed) - 2he5rs923s@privaterelay.appleid.com
  - ninkendo 3y ago
    You’re thinking about something else. There’s a thing called “Sign In With Apple” that is available when an app/website wants to offer it, that integrates with Apple’s authentication system. The email the app/website sees is a bunch of random characters followed by @privaterelay.appleid.com. But Sign In With Apple is not the same as Hide My Email. SIWA is for when the website opts into Apple as an auth provider. I just looked at my alias list in iCloud and every single “hide my email” alias looks like a plausible @icloud.com address with dictionary words, and every “sign in with Apple” address is using the privaterelay address with the super random characters. There are no addresses that look like a987dfc429be@icloud.com.

hsshah 3y ago

Have you ever had to reply 'from' a random iCloud email? Is it possible? I faced that with Costco support. My method is custom email on personal domain name. Had to setup email alias in gmail to do so. Was a pain.