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I don't have any particular opinion on Mitchel Baker, but... > You're probably right because we've left "We"? I certainly didn't and I'm not alone. > I only

by jraph 3y ago

I don't have any particular opinion on Mitchel Baker, but... > You're probably right because we've left "We"? I certainly didn't and I'm not alone. > I only recently switched over to Brave in the past year or two. I'm doing my part to switch friends and family over too You don't say why. Why leave Firefox for Brave, and more importantly, why encourage people to do so? Despite all Mozilla's flaws, Firefox is still great and contrary to Brave, it doesn't contribute to Google's browser monopoly. Integrated adblocking, which is often mentioned, is not a good reason: it's faster and easier to install uBlock Origin on an existing Firefox install than to install a brand new browser and make your relatives change their habits. What do you say to your relatives to justify this switch? I'm trying to understand what I can take from your comment here.

cpburns2009 3y ago
> "We"? I certainly didn't and I'm not alone. I was replying to the statement in the parent post: >> If you are suggesting that people who still use firefox hate Mitchell Baker, you are mistaken. I stopped using Firefox. From this and other threads about Mozilla/Firefox, plenty of other HN people have too. It's not just Mitchel Baker. Mozilla has been under schizophrenic leadership for years, running in a hundred directions while neglecting their core product: Firefox. Firefox at its best broke IE's dominance, and at it's peak had 30% market share, and now it's what? 4%? If the trend continues, it's going to drop below Steam's Linux market share of 1%. > You don't say why. Why leave Firefox for Brave, and more importantly, why encourage people to do so? > > Despite all Mozilla's flaws, Firefox is still great and contrary to Brave, it doesn't contribute to Google's browser monopoly. I don't see Firefox having a long term future. Brave, Vivaldi, or one of these other Chrome reskins will assume Firefox's place as it slowly fades into a niche browser. Even Microsoft gave up and made Edge a Chrome reskin. Mozilla had the opportunity to have the best and most popular browser and they blew it. They abandoned Firefox OS and Servo. Somehow Rust survived. > Integrated adblocking, which is often mentioned, is not a good reason: it's faster and easier to install uBlock Origin on an existing Firefox install than to install a brand new browser and make your relatives change their habits. > > What do you say to your relatives to justify this switch? When they ask, and they do for some reason because I wound up being IT, I tell them I prefer to use Brave now. That it's a privacy focused variation of Chrome. Or if they complain about ads on Android's Youtube app, I tell them to use Youtube from Brave. When I setup a new computer for any of them I now install Brave along side whatever previous browser they used: Chrome, Edge, or Firefox. I used to always install Chrome and Firefox (with uBlock Origin of course).

by jraph 3y ago

cpburns2009 3y ago

> "We"? I certainly didn't and I'm not alone. I was replying to the statement in the parent post: >> If you are suggesting that people who still use firefox hate Mitchell Baker, you are mistaken. I stopped using Firefox. From this and other threads about Mozilla/Firefox, plenty of other HN people have too. It's not just Mitchel Baker. Mozilla has been under schizophrenic leadership for years, running in a hundred directions while neglecting their core product: Firefox. Firefox at its best broke IE's dominance, and at it's peak had 30% market share, and now it's what? 4%? If the trend continues, it's going to drop below Steam's Linux market share of 1%. > You don't say why. Why leave Firefox for Brave, and more importantly, why encourage people to do so? > > Despite all Mozilla's flaws, Firefox is still great and contrary to Brave, it doesn't contribute to Google's browser monopoly. I don't see Firefox having a long term future. Brave, Vivaldi, or one of these other Chrome reskins will assume Firefox's place as it slowly fades into a niche browser. Even Microsoft gave up and made Edge a Chrome reskin. Mozilla had the opportunity to have the best and most popular browser and they blew it. They abandoned Firefox OS and Servo. Somehow Rust survived. > Integrated adblocking, which is often mentioned, is not a good reason: it's faster and easier to install uBlock Origin on an existing Firefox install than to install a brand new browser and make your relatives change their habits. > > What do you say to your relatives to justify this switch? When they ask, and they do for some reason because I wound up being IT, I tell them I prefer to use Brave now. That it's a privacy focused variation of Chrome. Or if they complain about ads on Android's Youtube app, I tell them to use Youtube from Brave. When I setup a new computer for any of them I now install Brave along side whatever previous browser they used: Chrome, Edge, or Firefox. I used to always install Chrome and Firefox (with uBlock Origin of course).