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Despite SMS being a hack that costs carriers (essentially) nothing to send [1], the reality of this situation is that telcos will be/are quickly losing one of t

Despite SMS being a hack that costs carriers (essentially) nothing to send [1], the reality of this situation is that telcos will be/are quickly losing one of their largest profit points to services like iMessage. Real question: Where are they going to recover that profitability from? [1] http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2008/12/text-messages-c/ http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2008/12/text-messages-c/

chc 14y ago
Providing value over what a 500 loc client app and a 50 loc Node.js server can offer would be a good start.
- brettnak 14y ago
  I was going to say something similar. While I realize that we are mostly entrepreneurs here, aren't there some of us who believe in working hard and providing a reasonable service or product at a reasonable price? In all seriousness, people often consider giving to charities and whatnot as a contribution to society. Wouldn't it be even greater to simply run a service - especially in this case - for an "honest" amount of money; ie, enough to make some profit, save some, and cover costs? Is this line of thinking completely absent from society?
eaurouge 14y ago
Where are they going to recover that profitability from? They won't. They'll eventually need to adapt to the reality of their business, which is to move data from one point to another. They'll get to decide how to monetize their dumb pipes but their current SMS business model won't last.
- brettnak 14y ago
  Another real question is this: Do people think the first of the major telcos to buckle down and actually do this will pull quite far ahead of the others?
wizzard 14y ago
I'm genuinely curious... why is AT&T losing so much money over iMessage? When iMessage came out I went to downgrade my SMS plan, and found you can no longer do so. It is unlimited SMS or no messaging. Not everyone I know owns an iPhone and $.20 per SMS adds up, so I am stuck paying for unlimited.
- toadkick 14y ago
  Mysteriously, AT&T changed their plans very shortly after Apple announced iMessage. Obviously they foresaw a lot of people downgrading their plans so they just did away with the tiered plans completely.

chc 14y ago

Providing value over what a 500 loc client app and a 50 loc Node.js server can offer would be a good start.

brettnak 14y ago
I was going to say something similar. While I realize that we are mostly entrepreneurs here, aren't there some of us who believe in working hard and providing a reasonable service or product at a reasonable price? In all seriousness, people often consider giving to charities and whatnot as a contribution to society. Wouldn't it be even greater to simply run a service - especially in this case - for an "honest" amount of money; ie, enough to make some profit, save some, and cover costs? Is this line of thinking completely absent from society?

eaurouge 14y ago

Where are they going to recover that profitability from? They won't. They'll eventually need to adapt to the reality of their business, which is to move data from one point to another. They'll get to decide how to monetize their dumb pipes but their current SMS business model won't last.

brettnak 14y ago
Another real question is this: Do people think the first of the major telcos to buckle down and actually do this will pull quite far ahead of the others?

wizzard 14y ago

I'm genuinely curious... why is AT&T losing so much money over iMessage? When iMessage came out I went to downgrade my SMS plan, and found you can no longer do so. It is unlimited SMS or no messaging. Not everyone I know owns an iPhone and $.20 per SMS adds up, so I am stuck paying for unlimited.

toadkick 14y ago
Mysteriously, AT&T changed their plans very shortly after Apple announced iMessage. Obviously they foresaw a lot of people downgrading their plans so they just did away with the tiered plans completely.