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The Dutch also have a law that they cannot involve a civilian in long term observation for more than a year and then they need to provide them with a contract i

by hcfman 3y ago

The Dutch also have a law that they cannot involve a civilian in long term observation for more than a year and then they need to provide them with a contract in advance but they don’t give a shit. I know that they have kept this up for more than 10 years and is not left at surveillance but also involves harassment and criminal offences. And also against none criminally involved people. They have their laws and they have what they do. The laws are just to pacify people. But they are structurally ignored.

hcfman 3y ago
Around 20 years ago there was a big affair in the Netherlands called "The IRT affaire", Where the government themselves were becoming the biggest drug dealer. I know about this because I built the search engine for this dossier (file) for the NRC handelsblad at the time, a very large Dutch newspaper (Before later building one of the first national search engines for the Netherlands, Search.NL (https://www.eindhovenfotos.nl/1/ilse.nl.html https://www.eindhovenfotos.nl/1/ilse.nl.html)). This caused a huge shit storm. Then there was a silence for 4 years, then they started again but learned from their experience. This time they shared the blame and formed the RIEC, an intelligence agency. The RIEC actually carries out their work through "their partners", police, council etc. This shared the blame, learning from their mistakes going on here. They also have deniability, they only give the partners instructions to follow, no reasons, they are instructed to keep only the bare minimum of information in their computers (Only what is absolutely necessary, which could in principle mean everything, it could be all done by word of mouth). So they keep that secret and the partners just do what they are told, doesn't matter how immoral it is. And finally, the organisation itself was formed without a human representative as the head. This technicality makes it be above the law in the Netherlands, you cannot sue an organisation if it doesn't have a human representative at the top. So the information about all of these activities are stored in computers by the RIEC, out of touch from accountability. This new structure was a success, and they have been undermining democracy ever since. This started around the end of 2005 and the formal organisation was started around 2008. When 9/11 started they started to empower the word "terrorism" to allow them to use the word to justify any new laws and powers they wanted. For the Dutch and this new approach they clearly saw the power of the word and came up with their own version called "undermining". And they claim that organised crime is undermining the fabric of society and in order to fight them to prevent this it's no longer sufficient to find evidence and convict criminals, now they need to intervene and take direct action against this. No evidence needed, anything goes. So now the government itself have become the organized criminals. And when it goes wrong, it goes horribly wrong and they simply cover everything up. This is where the press are supposed to be the counter balance for all of this. Unfortunately, the Netherlands have very good muzzles for the press and the press are no where near as proactive at printing stories about this sort of thing than they should be, so they get away with it and democracy itself is undermined more by the government than by the criminals. And the Dutch pushed this approach to neighboring Belgium and Germany who have a RIEC now as well. Why do I know so much about this? Because I was a victim of when it goes horribly wrong. In 2004, I bought a house who's entrance passed literally between 2x other houses. Then end 2005 the guy in right house was busted for growing weed and the the guy in left house strangely appeared to be harrassing him three months before. This harrassment spread to us simply because we complained. Then after more than 10 years of serious harrassment and criminality against me I forced the case to court. It took 5x years (So then 13 years later)! (https://www.limburger.nl/cnt/dmf20180522_00062344 https://www.limburger.nl/cnt/dmf20180522_00062344). We only got to stop it at all by interrupting a live telecast of a council meeting (https://www.1limburg.nl/nieuws/1369805/boze-families-verstoren-raadsvergadering-sittard-geleen https://www.1limburg.nl/nieuws/1369805/boze-families-verstor...). Video of the protest here: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8RBSKi-UNk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8RBSKi-UNk). When it got to court, the prosecutor lied to the courts tried to blame it on me and then he retired, in 2018. Strangely there was a burst of prosecutors leaving their roles this year and no press investigated as to why (https://www.1limburg.nl/nieuws/1357826/leegloop-bij-justitie-zeven-officieren-vertrekken https://www.1limburg.nl/nieuws/1357826/leegloop-bij-justitie...). After this, once I recovered from the trauma, I investigated as to why a prosecutor would deliberately fail a case and that's when I discovered he was the former head of the RIEC and then all of the clues and events and people fell into place. And I discovered that he had lied in court before (https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/1039807/liegende-officieren-zaak-joep-j-vrijuit https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/1039807/liegende-officieren-...). The entire time this guy was actually being run by the Dutch government itself. I even took the police to court, they appealed, this also took 5x years and I won the appeal as well, I got to see over 1000 pages of police files, in there was evidence the the government were running and protecting the person doing the harrassing for more than 10 years (https://www.limburger.nl/cnt/dmf20180221_00056384 https://www.limburger.nl/cnt/dmf20180221_00056384). The rest is a huge story, which I won't put here, but in any case there was absolutely no accountability possible ever and I did not put a trivial amount of effort into this. So much for the power of the press... Once I researched this it all make's sense. You have to find a stalking case suspicious when for more than 10 years of harrassment, attempted grevious bodily harm, theft and more the prosecutor only asked for 2 months provisional community service! WTF!! During this period, evidence vanished twice. The prosecutor had the role "recherche officier van justitie" part of whose job was to alignment with the head of team interventions as to what interventies they were going to carry out. The head of this department had migrated to be on the board of directors of the court of Maastricht before my case came to court. This same person (former head of team interventions) is also implicated in a case where 9x innocent people were put into jail on fabricated evidence (Search de villamoord https://kro-ncrv.nl/programmas/villamoord https://kro-ncrv.nl/programmas/villamoord), when she was the head of the organised crime unit in Arheim before moving to become the head of the organised crime unit in Maastricht in 2010, the time at which the police had been instructed to never respond to my calls anymore. The press were crap here, ignoring my attempts to get this published, mostly just ignoring all E-mails. No press in the Netherlands are willing to print my story. Mostly because they have ignored all of my attempts to communicate with them, but ones that didn't still wouldn't write about it.I even sent a message to the chief editor of the New York times about it who came to the Netherlands to talk to the press about how the press were the guardians of democracy. Unfortunately, she didn't didn't answer my mail. So much for that. So don't go thinking that there seems to be a lot of press on this subject in the Netherlands, there is no where near enough.

by hcfman 3y ago

hcfman 3y ago

Around 20 years ago there was a big affair in the Netherlands called "The IRT affaire", Where the government themselves were becoming the biggest drug dealer. I know about this because I built the search engine for this dossier (file) for the NRC handelsblad at the time, a very large Dutch newspaper (Before later building one of the first national search engines for the Netherlands, Search.NL (https://www.eindhovenfotos.nl/1/ilse.nl.html https://www.eindhovenfotos.nl/1/ilse.nl.html)). This caused a huge shit storm. Then there was a silence for 4 years, then they started again but learned from their experience. This time they shared the blame and formed the RIEC, an intelligence agency. The RIEC actually carries out their work through "their partners", police, council etc. This shared the blame, learning from their mistakes going on here. They also have deniability, they only give the partners instructions to follow, no reasons, they are instructed to keep only the bare minimum of information in their computers (Only what is absolutely necessary, which could in principle mean everything, it could be all done by word of mouth). So they keep that secret and the partners just do what they are told, doesn't matter how immoral it is. And finally, the organisation itself was formed without a human representative as the head. This technicality makes it be above the law in the Netherlands, you cannot sue an organisation if it doesn't have a human representative at the top. So the information about all of these activities are stored in computers by the RIEC, out of touch from accountability. This new structure was a success, and they have been undermining democracy ever since. This started around the end of 2005 and the formal organisation was started around 2008. When 9/11 started they started to empower the word "terrorism" to allow them to use the word to justify any new laws and powers they wanted. For the Dutch and this new approach they clearly saw the power of the word and came up with their own version called "undermining". And they claim that organised crime is undermining the fabric of society and in order to fight them to prevent this it's no longer sufficient to find evidence and convict criminals, now they need to intervene and take direct action against this. No evidence needed, anything goes. So now the government itself have become the organized criminals. And when it goes wrong, it goes horribly wrong and they simply cover everything up. This is where the press are supposed to be the counter balance for all of this. Unfortunately, the Netherlands have very good muzzles for the press and the press are no where near as proactive at printing stories about this sort of thing than they should be, so they get away with it and democracy itself is undermined more by the government than by the criminals. And the Dutch pushed this approach to neighboring Belgium and Germany who have a RIEC now as well. Why do I know so much about this? Because I was a victim of when it goes horribly wrong. In 2004, I bought a house who's entrance passed literally between 2x other houses. Then end 2005 the guy in right house was busted for growing weed and the the guy in left house strangely appeared to be harrassing him three months before. This harrassment spread to us simply because we complained. Then after more than 10 years of serious harrassment and criminality against me I forced the case to court. It took 5x years (So then 13 years later)! (https://www.limburger.nl/cnt/dmf20180522_00062344 https://www.limburger.nl/cnt/dmf20180522_00062344). We only got to stop it at all by interrupting a live telecast of a council meeting (https://www.1limburg.nl/nieuws/1369805/boze-families-verstoren-raadsvergadering-sittard-geleen https://www.1limburg.nl/nieuws/1369805/boze-families-verstor...). Video of the protest here: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8RBSKi-UNk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8RBSKi-UNk). When it got to court, the prosecutor lied to the courts tried to blame it on me and then he retired, in 2018. Strangely there was a burst of prosecutors leaving their roles this year and no press investigated as to why (https://www.1limburg.nl/nieuws/1357826/leegloop-bij-justitie-zeven-officieren-vertrekken https://www.1limburg.nl/nieuws/1357826/leegloop-bij-justitie...). After this, once I recovered from the trauma, I investigated as to why a prosecutor would deliberately fail a case and that's when I discovered he was the former head of the RIEC and then all of the clues and events and people fell into place. And I discovered that he had lied in court before (https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/1039807/liegende-officieren-zaak-joep-j-vrijuit https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/1039807/liegende-officieren-...). The entire time this guy was actually being run by the Dutch government itself. I even took the police to court, they appealed, this also took 5x years and I won the appeal as well, I got to see over 1000 pages of police files, in there was evidence the the government were running and protecting the person doing the harrassing for more than 10 years (https://www.limburger.nl/cnt/dmf20180221_00056384 https://www.limburger.nl/cnt/dmf20180221_00056384). The rest is a huge story, which I won't put here, but in any case there was absolutely no accountability possible ever and I did not put a trivial amount of effort into this. So much for the power of the press... Once I researched this it all make's sense. You have to find a stalking case suspicious when for more than 10 years of harrassment, attempted grevious bodily harm, theft and more the prosecutor only asked for 2 months provisional community service! WTF!! During this period, evidence vanished twice. The prosecutor had the role "recherche officier van justitie" part of whose job was to alignment with the head of team interventions as to what interventies they were going to carry out. The head of this department had migrated to be on the board of directors of the court of Maastricht before my case came to court. This same person (former head of team interventions) is also implicated in a case where 9x innocent people were put into jail on fabricated evidence (Search de villamoord https://kro-ncrv.nl/programmas/villamoord https://kro-ncrv.nl/programmas/villamoord), when she was the head of the organised crime unit in Arheim before moving to become the head of the organised crime unit in Maastricht in 2010, the time at which the police had been instructed to never respond to my calls anymore. The press were crap here, ignoring my attempts to get this published, mostly just ignoring all E-mails. No press in the Netherlands are willing to print my story. Mostly because they have ignored all of my attempts to communicate with them, but ones that didn't still wouldn't write about it.I even sent a message to the chief editor of the New York times about it who came to the Netherlands to talk to the press about how the press were the guardians of democracy. Unfortunately, she didn't didn't answer my mail. So much for that. So don't go thinking that there seems to be a lot of press on this subject in the Netherlands, there is no where near enough.