Fresh out of the schools, in the first year or two sure. But afaik most of them don't really stay full time engineers for that long, most bounce out or switch t

Fresh out of the schools, in the first year or two sure. But afaik most of them don't really stay full time engineers for that long, most bounce out or switch to other specializations with the experience they've earned. Code school devs 4+ years into their careers are as reliable as anyone else at the same experience level. I slightly prefer them with hiring, since succeeding with that approach shows a certain degree of flexibility and calculated risk taking. The first code school cohorts are a decade or more into their careers now. Most of them didn't stick around but the ones who did are very solid. They are just the forerunners, the big swell of 2015-2018 graduates who stayed in the industry is just hitting that mid-senior level.