> (...) aircraft carriers are going to immediately become obsoleted by antiship missiles (...) I think aircraft carriers are already obsolete, not due to antis

> (...) aircraft carriers are going to immediately become obsoleted by antiship missiles (...) I think aircraft carriers are already obsolete, not due to antiship missiles but due to small, quiet diesel subs. Pretty much any NATO navy operating these has stories from NATO exercises where their small, unimpressive sub managed to score hits on a carrier. This isn't new. Around two decades ago, the US felt the need to ask Sweden to loan them their HSMS Gotland to learn how to do something about them. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/think-us-navy-aircraft-carrier-unsinkable-meet-gotland-class-submarine-208153 https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/think-us-navy-aircraf...