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It never was otherwise, WFH was the only thing that shifted little of these cards to the employees, you might didn’t get a high salary but you saved on commute/

It never was otherwise, WFH was the only thing that shifted little of these cards to the employees, you might didn’t get a high salary but you saved on commute/rent/etc., and yet, they fought tooth and nail to end it, job market in the US is a modern slavery, which should be obvious with a country that has no minimum days mandates for an annual vacation or getting fired to form a union.

webninja 3y ago
It will always be that case so long as an employee can hold only one full time job and yet an employer can diversify amongst many employees.
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  I wasn't a union supporter until I realized it was the only way to tilt the power balance, once you have built a mental model of current state. I don't need a union, as I do not require an income, but my fellow human does, so onward. You only need majorities to arrive at outcomes.
lurking15 3y ago
> job market in the US is a modern slavery seems despicable to invoke slavery for people nowadays who get paid as free people
rcbdev 3y ago
In my country 98% of all workers are under union contracts - this has always just been a fact of my working life and I never knew how different it could be in other places until rather recently. The lack of unionization and mandatory PTO in the US is the most foreign concept imaginable.
gamblor956 3y ago
Needing to go into the office is not slavery. It's disgusting to liken the literal ownership of a human being as property to be used and abused 24/7 to having to commute to a nice, air-conditioned office a few days a week.
- tamimio 3y ago
  You are making a strawman argument, WFH and commuting is only the tip of it, not a comparison. Modern work is a form of slavery, and it is worse than the traditional one. In the past, a slave who changed owners would be free from the influence of the previous one. But now, you still have to please (aka kiss their arses) your former bosses so they won’t ruin your future references. Slavery means having no freewill, whether you are bound by physical chains or by financial obligations. You have no choice but to accept these burdens, or you will never have access to quality education, health care, schooling for your children, or even a house or a car. Do you know what is disgusting? Wasting your life until you are 65 years old to finally “own” a 40x40ft house that is made of wood and cardboard and was built in a few months. A house that you still have to pay taxes on, even though you “own” it, or it will be taken away from you. What is disgusting is that you - not necessarily you personally, but most likely - cannot survive more than a month, or a few months at best, without being a slave to one, a one that will be gladly to replace you in a week after wasting your youth, family, relationships, etc. The only free will you have is what kind of coffee to drink and what podcast to listen to before you go there

webninja 3y ago

It will always be that case so long as an employee can hold only one full time job and yet an employer can diversify amongst many employees.

toomuchtodo 3y ago
I wasn't a union supporter until I realized it was the only way to tilt the power balance, once you have built a mental model of current state. I don't need a union, as I do not require an income, but my fellow human does, so onward. You only need majorities to arrive at outcomes.

lurking15 3y ago

> job market in the US is a modern slavery seems despicable to invoke slavery for people nowadays who get paid as free people

rcbdev 3y ago

In my country 98% of all workers are under union contracts - this has always just been a fact of my working life and I never knew how different it could be in other places until rather recently. The lack of unionization and mandatory PTO in the US is the most foreign concept imaginable.

gamblor956 3y ago

Needing to go into the office is not slavery. It's disgusting to liken the literal ownership of a human being as property to be used and abused 24/7 to having to commute to a nice, air-conditioned office a few days a week.

tamimio 3y ago
You are making a strawman argument, WFH and commuting is only the tip of it, not a comparison. Modern work is a form of slavery, and it is worse than the traditional one. In the past, a slave who changed owners would be free from the influence of the previous one. But now, you still have to please (aka kiss their arses) your former bosses so they won’t ruin your future references. Slavery means having no freewill, whether you are bound by physical chains or by financial obligations. You have no choice but to accept these burdens, or you will never have access to quality education, health care, schooling for your children, or even a house or a car. Do you know what is disgusting? Wasting your life until you are 65 years old to finally “own” a 40x40ft house that is made of wood and cardboard and was built in a few months. A house that you still have to pay taxes on, even though you “own” it, or it will be taken away from you. What is disgusting is that you - not necessarily you personally, but most likely - cannot survive more than a month, or a few months at best, without being a slave to one, a one that will be gladly to replace you in a week after wasting your youth, family, relationships, etc. The only free will you have is what kind of coffee to drink and what podcast to listen to before you go there