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None of this explains HOW is it that the Russians are able to produce artillery shells at 7 times the rate of the entire Western world, while being sanctioned?
by _xnmw 3y ago
None of this explains HOW is it that the Russians are able to produce artillery shells at 7 times the rate of the entire Western world, while being sanctioned? If they can do it, why can't we?
[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-ammunition-manufacturing-ukraine-west-officials-2023-9 https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-ammunition-manufactur...
- snowpid 3y agoI give it a try: - Russia gives more into DIB. Putin sees the war as essential. - Day and Night Production. - No enviroment laws involved.
- justsomehnguy 3y ago> while being sanctioned Sorry? When did Russia became dependent on the Western steel or explosives?
- _xnmw 3y agoThey may not need raw materials, but they need the equipment for manufacturing.
- justsomehnguy 3y ago... Do you seriously think Russia in 2024 can't do 1956 level tech?
- mrguyorama 3y agoPutin doesn't have to convince the manufacturers that this will be a long term profitable endeavor for their business. It doesn't matter to Putin if a company "overinvests" because the company is not a separate entity. If the US wants that kind of control we have the Defense Production Act to force businesses to build up capacity. It's like how during the pandemic, pretty much nobody invested in increased toilet paper or mask production in the US, because "if I invest and the pandemic goes away, I will have "wasted" my investment" Basically its just another failure of capitalism as theorized. Turns out, it's very uncommon for someone to decide to build brand new capacity in an existing market without extreme incentives because it's too easy for them to be burned. If we want businesses to ramp up production, we need to either convince them it will be profitable, by signing expensive, long term contracts that can't be torpedoed by a future administration getting bitchy about the debt, or force them through law.
- _xnmw 3y agoI don't think this explains it. As the original article said, The DOD offers manufacturers 15-year contracts to guarantee profitability and that still isn't enough to ramp up capacity fast enough, or even meet demand on a multi-year timeline. I think the problem may lie in a serious deficit of manufacturing capability / expertise in the US.