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VMS still exists and is ported to x86! :) I should point out, I was talking about mainframes in general, to include Vaxen, Fujitsu, Unisys, etc. IBM isn't the

by zie 3y ago

VMS still exists and is ported to x86! :) I should point out, I was talking about mainframes in general, to include Vaxen, Fujitsu, Unisys, etc. IBM isn't the only mainframe game in town.

justinclift 3y ago
The term "mainframe" has never included Vax's. Not sure why you're trying add it now. ;)
- zie 3y ago
  The VAX9000 was the end of their mainframe line of VAX machines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAX_9000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAX_9000
  - justinclift 3y ago
    Oh wow, hadn't heard of that. I'd only heard of them doing minicomputers. That being said, from that their mainframe effort didn't last long. So they're not a mainframe vendor any more. Their minicomputers were reliable across decades, rather than their mainframes. ;)
    - zie 3y ago
      Well that was their last mainframe model. Yes, VMS still exists, but only on x86 now. VAX has been dead and buried for a long time now. They had a whole different compute architecture or two between then and now. VAX -> Alpha -> Itanium -> x86. I worked on VMS at the tail end of the VAX days and then through the Alpha days. Overall I thought VMS was pretty neat. Built in file versioning, the cluster stuff was awesome, arguably better than what k8s and the like can even provide now. They had uptimes in decades, that's not something k8s or any of the other new clustering stuff can even dream of achieving right now.
      - justinclift 3y ago
        Yeah, I got an account with VMS Software a few months ago. However, their website and staff members are so brain damaged that I just couldn't bring myself to waste time with it. Specifically, their website can't even take apostrophe's (nor many other non alphanumeric symbols) in passwords. Reported that to them, and their staff not only didn't give a shit, they were adamant that only "$#@!%*&" are all the non alphanumeric characters anyone might ever need (in passwords). :( Thus my complete lack of interest in VMS from that point onwards. ;)
  - sillywalk 3y ago
    That was a disaster for DEC. It cost $Billions to develop and was barely faster than an NVAX that fit into a desktop case.
    - zie 3y ago
      Indeed, they definitely screwed that one up.

by zie 3y ago

VMS still exists and is ported to x86! :) I should point out, I was talking about mainframes in general, to include Vaxen, Fujitsu, Unisys, etc. IBM isn't the only mainframe game in town.

justinclift 3y ago

The term "mainframe" has never included Vax's. Not sure why you're trying add it now. ;)

zie 3y ago
The VAX9000 was the end of their mainframe line of VAX machines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAX_9000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAX_9000
- justinclift 3y ago
  Oh wow, hadn't heard of that. I'd only heard of them doing minicomputers. That being said, from that their mainframe effort didn't last long. So they're not a mainframe vendor any more. Their minicomputers were reliable across decades, rather than their mainframes. ;)
  - zie 3y ago
    Well that was their last mainframe model. Yes, VMS still exists, but only on x86 now. VAX has been dead and buried for a long time now. They had a whole different compute architecture or two between then and now. VAX -> Alpha -> Itanium -> x86. I worked on VMS at the tail end of the VAX days and then through the Alpha days. Overall I thought VMS was pretty neat. Built in file versioning, the cluster stuff was awesome, arguably better than what k8s and the like can even provide now. They had uptimes in decades, that's not something k8s or any of the other new clustering stuff can even dream of achieving right now.
    - justinclift 3y ago
      Yeah, I got an account with VMS Software a few months ago. However, their website and staff members are so brain damaged that I just couldn't bring myself to waste time with it. Specifically, their website can't even take apostrophe's (nor many other non alphanumeric symbols) in passwords. Reported that to them, and their staff not only didn't give a shit, they were adamant that only "$#@!%*&" are all the non alphanumeric characters anyone might ever need (in passwords). :( Thus my complete lack of interest in VMS from that point onwards. ;)
- sillywalk 3y ago
  That was a disaster for DEC. It cost $Billions to develop and was barely faster than an NVAX that fit into a desktop case.
  - zie 3y ago
    Indeed, they definitely screwed that one up.