> It would seem I am not the only one who notices the constant, absurd attempts to discount this simple fact. Or... they upvoted you because Python being slow

> It would seem I am not the only one who notices the constant, absurd attempts to discount this simple fact. Or... they upvoted you because Python being slow is a simple, obvious, uncontroversial truth that nobody disagrees with? Do you understand that I'm not trying to disagree with you on that point? The point is not that you're wrong about Python being slow, it's that you're wrong that this is somehow a secret nobody wants to admit, and you're wrong that this is somehow an evil thing that Python should be shunned for. There are no "constant, absurd attempts to discount this simple fact." The discussions you linked aren't doing that, they're just talking about the relative cost and importance of improving that slowness. Python is slow because accepting slowness lets the language be simpler, more flexible, and sometimes more expressive. For some use cases, this is an excellent tradeoff. For other use cases it's a terrible one. I don't understand why you see this as some kind of moral crusade.