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Anybody really surprised at this point? G has had DeepMind in their pockets since ‘12-‘14 and made little advancements. OpenAI changed the game in half the time

by xyst 3y ago

Anybody really surprised at this point? G has had DeepMind in their pockets since ‘12-‘14 and made little advancements. OpenAI changed the game in half the time. G is inferior and losing the race.

agumonkey 3y ago
It's doubly strange because Google had an implicit reputation of being the unbeatable giant in computing research and resources.. many expected them to compete and smoke chatGPT in a few weeks. It's been months and nothing came up except fumblings and confusion.
- CuriouslyC 3y ago
  Sundar has zero vision and has created a culture that stifles new developments in bureaucratic morass while threatening to kill them shortly after birth. Google may have more scientists and some of the best minds in the business, but ChatGPT has nearly 200 million users that are feeding it back data for RLHF, and data is a much more important moat than better tech (which mostly ends up being published and disseminated anyhow). AI is a game between OpenAI and Meta. ChatGPT has a ton of users creating highly relevant data, but Meta has the incredible walled trove of facebook/instagram/whatsapp/+ data that dwarfs pretty much anyone else on the planet, and with Mark's recent push to build up their compute their only competitors in that space are microsoft and google. People discounted Meta because of that horrible metaverse move, but Mark is being pretty canny now, they're very well positioned to choke the life out of specialty chatbot products while integrating SOTA AI into all of their products to slowly crank up the time people are on platform.
_xivi 3y ago
OpenAI is built on top of Google advancements and research. It didn't change the game, more like took a shortcut and landed on a gold mine. The fact that many products and models including open source have catched up on such a short notice and now compete with OpenAI, in what should be their self-proclaimed backyard, suggest it's just a one-trick pony.

by xyst 3y ago

agumonkey 3y ago

It's doubly strange because Google had an implicit reputation of being the unbeatable giant in computing research and resources.. many expected them to compete and smoke chatGPT in a few weeks. It's been months and nothing came up except fumblings and confusion.

CuriouslyC 3y ago
Sundar has zero vision and has created a culture that stifles new developments in bureaucratic morass while threatening to kill them shortly after birth. Google may have more scientists and some of the best minds in the business, but ChatGPT has nearly 200 million users that are feeding it back data for RLHF, and data is a much more important moat than better tech (which mostly ends up being published and disseminated anyhow). AI is a game between OpenAI and Meta. ChatGPT has a ton of users creating highly relevant data, but Meta has the incredible walled trove of facebook/instagram/whatsapp/+ data that dwarfs pretty much anyone else on the planet, and with Mark's recent push to build up their compute their only competitors in that space are microsoft and google. People discounted Meta because of that horrible metaverse move, but Mark is being pretty canny now, they're very well positioned to choke the life out of specialty chatbot products while integrating SOTA AI into all of their products to slowly crank up the time people are on platform.

_xivi 3y ago

OpenAI is built on top of Google advancements and research. It didn't change the game, more like took a shortcut and landed on a gold mine. The fact that many products and models including open source have catched up on such a short notice and now compete with OpenAI, in what should be their self-proclaimed backyard, suggest it's just a one-trick pony.