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I wanted to use Music on a windows PC that has a good DAC attached and I was politely told that they don't support security keys on windows. No alternative. No

I wanted to use Music on a windows PC that has a good DAC attached and I was politely told that they don't support security keys on windows. No alternative. No 'get a code on another device', just PFO.

SigmundurM 3y ago
Could Cider[1] be what you're looking for? It's basically a open source frontend for Apple Music that works on Linux and Windows. It's what I use to listen to my Apple Music songs on Linux, and it's amazing. [1]: https://cider.sh/ https://cider.sh/
- anotherhue 3y ago
  There's a web interface that could be used, but I wanted to use the high-res mode with this DAC. First world problems of course, but just needlessly frustrating.
  - SigmundurM 3y ago
    They're currently working on a complete remake of Cider [1], which is "powered by Rust. With a partial shift away from Electron". That might fit your needs? The latest release, v2.3.0, also supports forcing the player to use 256kbps[2] [1]: https://cidercollective.itch.io/cider https://cidercollective.itch.io/cider [2]: https://cidercollective.itch.io/cider/devlog/674855/cider-v230 https://cidercollective.itch.io/cider/devlog/674855/cider-v2...
    - anotherhue 3y ago
      I believe the DRM Apple adds makes the Hi-Res options exceedingly difficult to access from outside of their platform.
      - SigmundurM 3y ago
        Cider seemed to struggle just getting the 256kbps. So getting the lossless options, are not gonna be any easier, but hopefully Cider can figure it out with time!
- prox 3y ago
  So I can access my Apple Music library through this?
  - SigmundurM 3y ago
    Yup! I'm not sure about music that you've added/uploaded to your library, haven't tried that, but given that Cider "iCloud library" I would imagine that it should just work.
- s3p 3y ago
  This app is INCREDIBLE. I have been extremely unhappy with macOS music compared to iOS and this seems to address all my use cases. thanks for sending it along :)
- swasheck 3y ago
  i wanted to love cider but it seemed like every other day i had to log back into the application and do the whole apple 2fa dance
  - KANahas 3y ago
    They ground up rebuilt it a while back and it seems like they’ve fixed that issue.
tempodox 3y ago
> PFO Persistent Felony Offender?
- 333c 3y ago
  "Please fuck off"
- anotherhue 3y ago
  https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=PFO https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=PFO
- runjake 3y ago
  “Please eff off”
mrpippy 3y ago
You should try it with the latest version: https://www.macrumors.com/2024/02/06/apple-id-security-keys-now-supports-windows/ https://www.macrumors.com/2024/02/06/apple-id-security-keys-...
- anotherhue 3y ago
  Thank you for finding this. Edit: nope, "security keys not supported on icloud for windows" Edit edit: need to first install the latest icloud for windows (which I don't want but fine). Seems to provide an auth layer so now it works.
  - turquoisevar 3y ago
    Do you have v15 installed? Not sure if it’s already pushed out.
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]

SigmundurM 3y ago

Could Cider[1] be what you're looking for? It's basically a open source frontend for Apple Music that works on Linux and Windows. It's what I use to listen to my Apple Music songs on Linux, and it's amazing. [1]: https://cider.sh/ https://cider.sh/

anotherhue 3y ago
There's a web interface that could be used, but I wanted to use the high-res mode with this DAC. First world problems of course, but just needlessly frustrating.
- SigmundurM 3y ago
  They're currently working on a complete remake of Cider [1], which is "powered by Rust. With a partial shift away from Electron". That might fit your needs? The latest release, v2.3.0, also supports forcing the player to use 256kbps[2] [1]: https://cidercollective.itch.io/cider https://cidercollective.itch.io/cider [2]: https://cidercollective.itch.io/cider/devlog/674855/cider-v230 https://cidercollective.itch.io/cider/devlog/674855/cider-v2...
  - anotherhue 3y ago
    I believe the DRM Apple adds makes the Hi-Res options exceedingly difficult to access from outside of their platform.
    - SigmundurM 3y ago
      Cider seemed to struggle just getting the 256kbps. So getting the lossless options, are not gonna be any easier, but hopefully Cider can figure it out with time!
prox 3y ago
So I can access my Apple Music library through this?
- SigmundurM 3y ago
  Yup! I'm not sure about music that you've added/uploaded to your library, haven't tried that, but given that Cider "iCloud library" I would imagine that it should just work.
s3p 3y ago
This app is INCREDIBLE. I have been extremely unhappy with macOS music compared to iOS and this seems to address all my use cases. thanks for sending it along :)
swasheck 3y ago
i wanted to love cider but it seemed like every other day i had to log back into the application and do the whole apple 2fa dance
- KANahas 3y ago
  They ground up rebuilt it a while back and it seems like they’ve fixed that issue.

tempodox 3y ago

> PFO Persistent Felony Offender?

333c 3y ago
"Please fuck off"
anotherhue 3y ago
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=PFO https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=PFO
runjake 3y ago
“Please eff off”

mrpippy 3y ago

You should try it with the latest version: https://www.macrumors.com/2024/02/06/apple-id-security-keys-now-supports-windows/ https://www.macrumors.com/2024/02/06/apple-id-security-keys-...

anotherhue 3y ago
Thank you for finding this. Edit: nope, "security keys not supported on icloud for windows" Edit edit: need to first install the latest icloud for windows (which I don't want but fine). Seems to provide an auth layer so now it works.
- turquoisevar 3y ago
  Do you have v15 installed? Not sure if it’s already pushed out.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]