->"Why not just join the theologians in that earlier discussion, rather than pretending that this is something distinctive about computers? Is it relevantly dif

->"Why not just join the theologians in that earlier discussion, rather than pretending that this is something distinctive about computers? Is it relevantly different here if you’re being dreamed in the mind of God or being executed in Python?" Exactly. There is a few thousand years, since Plato's the Cave, dealing with same issues. Why make it a 'computer' this time. Because an entire generation has grown up after watching 'The Matrix', and that was their first introduction to the ideas. Now all the same old problems are put in that context. But they are shoe-horning it into current understandings of what a computer is. If physical Church-Turing is correct, then we 'ARE' the computer, not 'IN' the computer.