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Wait, has Web Push ever worked on iOS?

Sominemo 3y ago
They added support for it in iOS 16.4, but websites can access it only when they are added to home screen. Thus, no home screen access means no Web Push.
- mtomweb 3y ago
  It was only as a result of regulatory pressure
Khaine 3y ago
As a user, web push is a terrible idea. It's not something I want. I'm glad its so hard to do on iOS.
- jauntywundrkind 3y ago
  Such aggressively zero sum thinking. Maybe you have a fine native calendar app available to you on your platform that you trust. Great, good for you. Maybe you have a messenger app on your native platform that you trust. Good for you, we are happy for you! To use that to say the web shouldn't have a capability is incredibly cruel. Other users have corporate controlled systems and school laptops and terminals at public library. These users have next to no power, but the web is a common baseline for humanity that does serve & help everyone. It should have this capability, be possible to do this thing. If this feature annoys you, don't use it. Turn it off. This is the web: get an extension that blocks Web Push requests preemptively. You as a web user have a user agent at your back that is flexible & configurable in how you browse the web. Just telling people they can't have a feature because In Your High Opinion It's Bad takes so much. Other people should have the liberty too. The web should have features, not cater to those who insist on its withdrawal from spaces they carve out.
  - burnerthrow008 3y ago
    That’s a lot of words to say “Please send me another aggressive push advertisement, sir!” The astroturfing on this site has gotten incredible since the Reddit meltdown.
    - Gud 3y ago
      That is not at all what parent poster was saying. I'm doubled down on adblockers. I use both ublock origin and filter advertisements on my network. This is a much needed feature. Currently, we are riddled with terrible app notifications because the options are so limited. Bring back the web as the front of the internet, and put native programs(a word I miss, by the way) back where they belong, in my control.
    - foverzar 3y ago
      > The astroturfing on this site has gotten incredible since the Reddit meltdown. Like when people play dumb pretending that the sole use case for notifications is ads?
  - mob_eng 3y ago
    That's why I'm against it: Whenever I look at my dad's computer or phone, he has a lot of spam notifications from I don't know where. It's even an avenue for scam, as there are the multiple "Your device is infected" notifications... I'm not against web tech being able to send notifications, but allowing every site to ask for permission (when people just don't read and click anything) is a nightmare. Apple's solution there is pretty good: You can have web push if you want to treat this site as an app
  - Khaine 3y ago
    It's just another thing ad tech can use to track and annoy users. Your same argument was used by javascript advocates back in the day "if you don't like it, disable it." Have you tried browsing the web without it these days? Most sites, which just display text don't work. That is why I am so aggressively against this crap. Web developers have proven they can't be trusted, to not abuse these features.

They added support for it in iOS 16.4, but websites can access it only when they are added to home screen. Thus, no home screen access means no Web Push.

mtomweb 3y ago
It was only as a result of regulatory pressure

Khaine 3y ago

As a user, web push is a terrible idea. It's not something I want. I'm glad its so hard to do on iOS.

jauntywundrkind 3y ago
Such aggressively zero sum thinking. Maybe you have a fine native calendar app available to you on your platform that you trust. Great, good for you. Maybe you have a messenger app on your native platform that you trust. Good for you, we are happy for you! To use that to say the web shouldn't have a capability is incredibly cruel. Other users have corporate controlled systems and school laptops and terminals at public library. These users have next to no power, but the web is a common baseline for humanity that does serve & help everyone. It should have this capability, be possible to do this thing. If this feature annoys you, don't use it. Turn it off. This is the web: get an extension that blocks Web Push requests preemptively. You as a web user have a user agent at your back that is flexible & configurable in how you browse the web. Just telling people they can't have a feature because In Your High Opinion It's Bad takes so much. Other people should have the liberty too. The web should have features, not cater to those who insist on its withdrawal from spaces they carve out.
- burnerthrow008 3y ago
  That’s a lot of words to say “Please send me another aggressive push advertisement, sir!” The astroturfing on this site has gotten incredible since the Reddit meltdown.
  - Gud 3y ago
    That is not at all what parent poster was saying. I'm doubled down on adblockers. I use both ublock origin and filter advertisements on my network. This is a much needed feature. Currently, we are riddled with terrible app notifications because the options are so limited. Bring back the web as the front of the internet, and put native programs(a word I miss, by the way) back where they belong, in my control.
  - foverzar 3y ago
    > The astroturfing on this site has gotten incredible since the Reddit meltdown. Like when people play dumb pretending that the sole use case for notifications is ads?
- mob_eng 3y ago
  That's why I'm against it: Whenever I look at my dad's computer or phone, he has a lot of spam notifications from I don't know where. It's even an avenue for scam, as there are the multiple "Your device is infected" notifications... I'm not against web tech being able to send notifications, but allowing every site to ask for permission (when people just don't read and click anything) is a nightmare. Apple's solution there is pretty good: You can have web push if you want to treat this site as an app
- Khaine 3y ago
  It's just another thing ad tech can use to track and annoy users. Your same argument was used by javascript advocates back in the day "if you don't like it, disable it." Have you tried browsing the web without it these days? Most sites, which just display text don't work. That is why I am so aggressively against this crap. Web developers have proven they can't be trusted, to not abuse these features.