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No, that is absolute bullshit. So so often, it is obviously the reckless cyclist's fault.
by zilti 3y ago
No, that is absolute bullshit. So so often, it is obviously the reckless cyclist's fault.
- teekert 3y agoThat's a US perspective you have a car-first culture. If you have a bike first infrastructure you wouldn't talk like that. Here Bikes and cars are often even on different roads, where they need to cross, it's made very clear how that will work (traffic lights, clear lanes).
- LtWorf 3y agoI mostly go on foot and… I'd go for a bicycle is always at fault law to be honest. Meek with cars and assholes with pedestrians is how cyclists mostly are.
- teekert 3y agoYou obviously are not from a culture where everybody is a cyclist. We have more bikes than cars in our country because you can use them at all ages and get to more places using a bike. My kids learned to ride a bike at 2. We have some research [0], on average anybody over 6 rode a bike 232 times and an average of about 1000 km in 2022. [0] https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/visualisaties/verkeer-en-vervoer/personen/fietsen https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/visualisaties/verkeer-en-vervoer/pe...
- LtWorf 3y agoI'm from a culture where mountains exist. Geography isn't a culture. Having said that. In Sweden this routinely happens: To clear the bike and car paths from snow, a mountain is of snow is made over the pedestrian path, then INEVITABLY bicyclists angry ring at pedestrians all the time… because pedestrians should walk in 1 meter high piled up snow of course? The same also happens if there is a digging in progress and there is a 2 meter hole… cyclists still expect pedestrians to jump down in a hole and then climb up. However where there is no bicycle path, they will go on the side walk (which is not allowed). Of course a good % of them actually have an electric engine and zoom around very fast.
- teekert 3y agoYou are an angry person. Most people are kind, something is not adding up here.
- LtWorf 3y agoI am not angry until some person on the bicycle tells me to go to hellvete (hell, but it's more insulting in swedish than english) because I dared to walk on the cleared up bicycle path when there was no alternative. After, I do tend get angry, yes. You are probably just set in your own ways and refuse to internalize that there's more to the experience of the human race than your little bubble.
- zilti 3y agoNo, that is the perspective of a sane person. God damn it. I am European, and I - without a driver's license, so just a cyclist and pedestrian btw - have to deal with the behaviour of the entitled cycling shits every day, especially since I moved to Berlin. Occasionally also with pedestrians that just suddenly step onto the street without even looking. Surprisingly, the car drivers - even though they are assholes in Berlin, too - have been by far the most sane traffic participants to me so far. I have seen quite a few situations with cyclists behaving so ridiculously recklessly that the only reason I can see is that they must have a death wish. But yeah, sure, blame the car for running into a cyclist who runs a red light over an intersection at full speed, suddenly appearing between two lanes of standing cars. Or for running into a cyclist driving on the left side of the road into an intersection without looking. Or blame me for running into a pedestrian who suddenly steps in front of me. Ah no, wait - you're a hardcore cycling apologete, I am sure the pedestrian would be at fault in this particular case, right?
- zilti 3y agoHow often are you gonna copy-paste your arrogant nonsense?