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Nothing should surprise you about Shamann Walton. This is the man who refused to adhere to the City Hall's security procedures (on camera) and allegedly threate

Nothing should surprise you about Shamann Walton. This is the man who refused to adhere to the City Hall's security procedures (on camera) and allegedly threatened the person who asked him to comply: https://sfstandard.com/2022/08/05/video-supervisor-shamann-walton-sheriff-cadet-confrontation/ https://sfstandard.com/2022/08/05/video-supervisor-shamann-w... He also bought a home outside San Francisco, with a mortgage condition that says it must be his principal residence. But if doesn't live in SF, how can he represent the people of SF? https://susanreynolds.substack.com/p/where-does-shamann-walton-live https://susanreynolds.substack.com/p/where-does-shamann-walt...

godelski 3y ago
I'm not surprised by the content of your links, but I can say I'm disappointed. After all, surprise and disappointment are different things.
- Terr_ 3y ago
  > After all, surprise and disappointment are different things. Hmmm... I think I gave it a honest try, but I'm still having trouble making that fit. I mean, both are when the unexpected occurs, one is just more-specific, where the unexpected leads to a negative emotional response. Perhaps shocked versus disappointed?
  - godelski 3y ago
    In a similar comment I gave an example and maybe that'll help. I can leave my food in the oven too long and I will not be surprised to find that it is burnt, but I will definitely be disappointment that I ruined my meal. I think this should clarify and why I was a bit snarky lol. While they often correlate they are not the same.
    - Terr_ 3y ago
      > I can leave my food in the oven too long and I will not be surprised to find that it is burnt, but I will definitely be disappointment that I ruined my meal. Wading deep into the philosophical weeds here, my instinct is saying that's not an apples-to-apples scenario, because each term is being used in connection to different sets of events. For example, "when I realized my alarm hadn't gone off" versus "when I got home and opened the oven door." Perhaps the easiest way to illustrate that is to imagine the opposite scenario, where all discoveries and all self-analysis occur at the same moment in time: 1. You ask someone else to bake a pie, let it cool, and deliver the result to you later in the day. 2. A few hours later, an opaque and airtight box arrives, on time. (No clues, no warnings.) You still anticipate it contains your favorite pie. 3. You open the box to discover a blackened stinky mess! 4. At this moment you are experience both surprise (in general) and also a specific sub-type of surprise which is disappointed surprise.

godelski 3y ago

I'm not surprised by the content of your links, but I can say I'm disappointed. After all, surprise and disappointment are different things.

Terr_ 3y ago
> After all, surprise and disappointment are different things. Hmmm... I think I gave it a honest try, but I'm still having trouble making that fit. I mean, both are when the unexpected occurs, one is just more-specific, where the unexpected leads to a negative emotional response. Perhaps shocked versus disappointed?
- godelski 3y ago
  In a similar comment I gave an example and maybe that'll help. I can leave my food in the oven too long and I will not be surprised to find that it is burnt, but I will definitely be disappointment that I ruined my meal. I think this should clarify and why I was a bit snarky lol. While they often correlate they are not the same.
  - Terr_ 3y ago
    > I can leave my food in the oven too long and I will not be surprised to find that it is burnt, but I will definitely be disappointment that I ruined my meal. Wading deep into the philosophical weeds here, my instinct is saying that's not an apples-to-apples scenario, because each term is being used in connection to different sets of events. For example, "when I realized my alarm hadn't gone off" versus "when I got home and opened the oven door." Perhaps the easiest way to illustrate that is to imagine the opposite scenario, where all discoveries and all self-analysis occur at the same moment in time: 1. You ask someone else to bake a pie, let it cool, and deliver the result to you later in the day. 2. A few hours later, an opaque and airtight box arrives, on time. (No clues, no warnings.) You still anticipate it contains your favorite pie. 3. You open the box to discover a blackened stinky mess! 4. At this moment you are experience both surprise (in general) and also a specific sub-type of surprise which is disappointed surprise.