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> there are stop signs in all 4 directions This is a complete aside, but woah, is this common in SF? They simply aren't used here where I am (roundabouts are u
by girvo 3y ago
> there are stop signs in all 4 directions
This is a complete aside, but woah, is this common in SF? They simply aren't used here where I am (roundabouts are used instead)
Like they're uncommon enough that theres a news article on it in a different state: https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/motoring/fourway-stop-sign-stumps-wa-motorists-brings-traffic-to-a-standstill/news-story/1ef6f0332c199c409a454acf2de9ebe7 https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/motoring/fourw...
A four way stop sign seems like an absolute downgrade compared to a roundabout, but thats my local bias showing.
- School-Cotton 3y agoRoundabouts are rare in the US. Four-way stops are far more common. If the authorities find a particular one to be too dangerous, they would normally install traffic lights rather than replace it with a roundabout.
- girvo 3y agoFascinating. I wonder what the cultural difference is that caused us to go in different directions on that?
- hot_gril 3y agoI like roundabouts, but don't they require more space?
- lozenge 3y agoNo, you can also have a mini roundabout, which is a white circle painted on the road. Maybe slightly raised but with no kerb so you can just drive over it. Yield to anybody in the junction and yield to the right (we drive on the left). Very common in the UK instead of stop signs at intersections. Stop signs are only in rare places where a hedge or other environment prevents you from being able to see and yield to approaching traffic while approaching the junction. Even in that case there would never be a four way stop.
- hot_gril 3y agoInteresting. We have a few of those in the US, but get this, they have stop signs too!
- ianleighton 3y agoIIRC Vigo, in Galicia (Spain) struck me as a case of a decently dense city that used roundabouts at relatively compact intersections in the city center, along one street at least: https://maps.app.goo.gl/CwZYypxT5SjBr1QE7?g_st=ic https://maps.app.goo.gl/CwZYypxT5SjBr1QE7?g_st=ic
- agos 3y agoeven it it were the case, it's not like American roads lack in space
- hot_gril 3y agoThey do in some places, like SF. Though even SF has more road than some Europe or Middle East cities.