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Cyclists can treat Stop signs as Yield signs in California.

by Phrodo_00 3y ago

bagels 3y ago
Not legally. There was a failed push for this to become law in the past.
- Phrodo_00 3y ago
  huh I guess the Internet lied to me https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/california-stop-bicyclists-yield-signs-ab-122/ https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/california-stop-bi...
  - bagels 3y ago
    No lies in the article. "The bill now heads to Governor Newsom's desk" ... where it was vetoed, sadly.
    - stronglikedan 3y ago
      > where it was vetoed, sadly Sounds like the gov did the right thing. Cyclists shouldn't get special privileges. They're operating a vehicle on the roadway just like everyone else. Drivers of other types of vehicles shouldn't also have to remember special rules just for cyclists.
      - standardUser 3y ago
        > Drivers of other types of vehicles shouldn't also have to remember special rules just for cyclists. Drivers of any vehicle should learn all of the rules they need to drive safely and legally. It's not like there's a hundred different types of vehicles on the road. There's some special rules for trucks and motorcycles and bicycles and that's about it. Plus, travel by bicycle is a net positive for society and I strongly support incentivizing it, including through preferential laws (even though I almost never do it myself).
      - athrun 3y ago
        What are you talking about? All road users do have different rules for using the road: peds, cycles, scooters, motorcycles, cars, cargo trucks, buses, trams, etc. all have specific rules applying to them.
      - bagels 3y ago
        There are restrictions on where bicycles can be ridden that don't apply to cars. Should we get rid of those laws too? Let's also get rid of the lower speed limits for 18 wheelers, and weight limits on bridges. Why should passenger vehicles have all the fun? How about lane splitting for passenger vehicles, just like motorcycles get to do?
      - Mawr 3y ago
        An easy position to hold when it's physically impossible for a cyclist to harm you in your steel cage but you can kill them on a whim by slightly turning a wheel.
chihuahua 3y ago
You can do that, but then you have to accept the consequences when things don't play out the way you had hoped.
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antognini 3y ago
Setting aside the fact that the bill that proposed this was vetoed, a yield sign does not mean "don't stop." Yield means "yield." If there is other traffic that has the right of way you are obligated to stop before entering the intersection.

Cyclists can treat Stop signs as Yield signs in California.

bagels 3y ago

Not legally. There was a failed push for this to become law in the past.

Phrodo_00 3y ago
huh I guess the Internet lied to me https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/california-stop-bicyclists-yield-signs-ab-122/ https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/california-stop-bi...
- bagels 3y ago
  No lies in the article. "The bill now heads to Governor Newsom's desk" ... where it was vetoed, sadly.
  - stronglikedan 3y ago
    > where it was vetoed, sadly Sounds like the gov did the right thing. Cyclists shouldn't get special privileges. They're operating a vehicle on the roadway just like everyone else. Drivers of other types of vehicles shouldn't also have to remember special rules just for cyclists.
    - standardUser 3y ago
      > Drivers of other types of vehicles shouldn't also have to remember special rules just for cyclists. Drivers of any vehicle should learn all of the rules they need to drive safely and legally. It's not like there's a hundred different types of vehicles on the road. There's some special rules for trucks and motorcycles and bicycles and that's about it. Plus, travel by bicycle is a net positive for society and I strongly support incentivizing it, including through preferential laws (even though I almost never do it myself).
    - athrun 3y ago
      What are you talking about? All road users do have different rules for using the road: peds, cycles, scooters, motorcycles, cars, cargo trucks, buses, trams, etc. all have specific rules applying to them.
    - bagels 3y ago
      There are restrictions on where bicycles can be ridden that don't apply to cars. Should we get rid of those laws too? Let's also get rid of the lower speed limits for 18 wheelers, and weight limits on bridges. Why should passenger vehicles have all the fun? How about lane splitting for passenger vehicles, just like motorcycles get to do?
    - Mawr 3y ago
      An easy position to hold when it's physically impossible for a cyclist to harm you in your steel cage but you can kill them on a whim by slightly turning a wheel.

chihuahua 3y ago

You can do that, but then you have to accept the consequences when things don't play out the way you had hoped.

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antognini 3y ago

Setting aside the fact that the bill that proposed this was vetoed, a yield sign does not mean "don't stop." Yield means "yield." If there is other traffic that has the right of way you are obligated to stop before entering the intersection.