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I don't think enough people understand quite what Russia has in store for Ukrainians in case they win. For example, some think Bucha or the mass graves in Izyum
by kspacewalk2 3y ago
I don't think enough people understand quite what Russia has in store for Ukrainians in case they win. For example, some think Bucha or the mass graves in Izyum are one offs. But those who speak Ukrainian or Russian can find dozens of interviews with Ukrainian POWs who have come back in exchanges, and after watching them it becomes quite clear the Russians have tortured and/or brutally murdered many thousands of captives, and have a clear game plan what to do with anyone who isn't completely submissive and has any shred of Ukrainian identity in them once they occupy an area.
But even aside from what happens to Ukrainians, if this goes Russia's way it will embolden many other regimes to solve their problems through fascism and colonial invasions too. Pacifism is very nice and weapons of war are absolutely an evil thing, but if you don't have them your pacifism quickly becomes appeasement and/or submission when someone who's not as nice as you decides they're gonna go ahead and institute a few changes in their neighbourhood.
- epistasis 3y agoLast month I had the pleasure of hosting a woman who was originally from Georgia, who moved to Ukraine after Russia's invasion of Georgia, married a Ukrainian who fought at Avostol, and who is still a PoW, as evidenced by more recently swapped prisoners that saw him alive still. There's no need to belabor the torture that these folks saw, I have only read accounts and still have nightmares. Pacifism is a luxury of the extremely privileged. A very nice luxury, but a luxury nonetheless.