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And yet he's just wrong. AVP does do a good job of mirroring a single 4K display. It doesn't do any more than that, not multiple displays, and although it wil
by kj99 3y ago
And yet he's just wrong. AVP does do a good job of mirroring a single 4K display.
It doesn't do any more than that, not multiple displays, and although it will do a 5K display, it doesn't do it well. However for the one thing they claimed it could do, it works as advertised.
- jksflkjl3jk3 3y agoIs it comfortable to use for 2+ hours? My XReal Air glasses are okay for mirroring a single 1080p display, but becomes fatiguing on the eyes.
- kj99 3y ago2+ hours, yes. My sessions with it have been 2-3 hours, with short breaks for bathroom, refreshments, etc. within that session, and a longer break between sessions. A couple of 2-3 hour sessions in a day is reasonable (and I've done it). I wouldn't want to wear it all day.
- gilgoomesh 3y agoIn the latest Waveform Podcast, Marques Brownlee wore the display for 2+ hours. He didn't feel any eye-strain, just weight strain. I've seen people complain about fatigue after 5 hours on a plane, so it's not impossible but it sounds like it's better than most.
- vineyardmike 3y agoThe XReals aren’t even close a comparison to these.
- charcircuit 3y agoBut the vision pro has a lower PPD than them, so I think it would be fair.
- vineyardmike 3y agoIt’s the screen quality. Every time I use the XReals, there’s intense blooming and bleed with the colors being super off. It’s basically impossible to read anything in the margins of your screen. I bought them as “nreal” in dec 2022, I don’t know they updated the hardware when they rebranded.
- pazimzadeh 3y agoIs the mirrored mac as sharp as the rest of the visionOS UI for you? For me it's not. Also, even visionOS UI elements are almost but not quite retina quality unless I move them 1-2 feet from my face, which is exactly what he describes. Also the FOV is such that there's no point in having a huge screen, since I'd have to move my head from left to right to see everything.
- alphabettsy 3y agoNope. The 4K limitation is a letdown and it’s in the virtual display implementation because native applications, and the browser look amazing.
- kj99 3y agoAre you using it at 4K, or in downscaled 5K (which I agree is disappointing)?
- kj99 3y agoIt is for me. However it wasn't in its default configuration, where it was actually downscaling a 5K display to 4K. When I changed the display settings on the Mac to actually 4K it got a lot clearer. Not sure why the huge screen is relevant. I definitely sometimes prefer to have what amounts to a large display further away, rather than a small display up close. I don't see why you'd make it bigger than your FOV.
- pazimzadeh 3y agoFor me the default is 2560 x 1440. If I change it to 1920x1080 things looks bigger and thus crisper. If I select 3840x2160 or 5K from "show all resolutions" then everything becomes small and blurry.
- kj99 3y agoRight - so 2560 x 1440 is the default for a 5K studio display or old 5K iMac. 1920 x 1080 is the default in MacOS for a physical 4K monitor. Note that these numbers are half the actual pixel count in each dimension because MacOS defaults to assuming the display is a 2x Retina Display. So, if you choose the 1920x1080 option you get what I see using my actual 4K display. It also avoids the downsampling, because the stream itself is 4K and so is sharper. I don't know why Apple set the default for 5K downsampled.