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"Decisions went from being made for the benefit of users, to the benefit of Google, to the benefit of whoever was making the decision." This is definitely a sma
by nharada 3y ago
"Decisions went from being made for the benefit of users, to the benefit of Google, to the benefit of whoever was making the decision." This is definitely a small-to-large company pattern I've observed
- bazil376 3y agoAt least from my perspective it’s just the relentless pursuit of driving stock prices up
- jiveturkey 3y agoYes. Those that don't make it to those transition points have "failed".
- wolverine876 3y agoWhy would that shift it from 'for the benefit of Google' to 'for the benefit of whoever makes the decision'?
- LoganDark 3y agoBecause once the company is big enough, it becomes competitive and immoral enough for employees to start to fear each other. So everyone starts to develop an "every man for themselves" mentality.
- Rebelgecko 3y agoIf you're cashing out all of your RSUs over the next 5 years, you don't necessarily care about the long term ramifications of your decision. Just that it pumps the stock price in the short term
- kevinventullo 3y agoAnd yet…
- jokethrowaway 3y agoNothing to do with it. We're not mature enough to recognize the importance of a flat hierarchy and adopting a startup-like model with our internal teams (business and technical independence, succeed and you'll be rich, fail and you're fired) As a result, the larger the company, the larger the hierarchy, the larger the inefficencies. At the extreme you approximate the government of a country. Layers of managers who care only about collecting a paycheck, engaging in company politics and looking busy cause exactly this problem. Managers will pick the best decision for them, not anyone else.
- gtirloni 3y agoWhat are your thoughts on companies that adopted holacracy?
- gretch 3y agoPeople always talk about these things as if they are mutually exclusive. In reality, there’s lot of opportunities that benefit all 3 of user, Google, and decision maker. it’s kind of the fundamental principle of trade/business - that both sides can proper in a deal.
- uoaei 3y agoThat's nice in theory, but can you say that Google does things that actually achieve that trifecta?
- im3w1l 3y agoSure. It's just we tend to notice the tradeoffs and forget the win-wins. Every bug fixed and every performance improvement benefits all three.
- uoaei 3y ago> Every bug fixed and every performance improvement benefits all three. I'd love to think so, but the truth is that any platform, working correctly, disadvantages those who contribute most of the content. The platform owners earn money in ways that are always contrary to the interests of the content creators.
- scialex 3y agoYouTube, Google maps, Gmail ...
- tommiegannert 3y agoOr: These users don't seem to know what they want. I'll just listen to whomever keeps calling me personally about things. My buddies are successful, so it makes sense. Eh, these shareholders don't seem to know what they're doing. I'll just listen to myself. Everything I do makes sense to me, so that makes sense.
- llelouch 3y agoKind of reminds me of the evolution of bureaucracies