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I wish someone, anyone, would make a driver's EV. Correction: an affordable driver's EV. $100k minimum for a Taycan isn't affordable. I've driven every model

I wish someone, anyone, would make a driver's EV. Correction: an affordable driver's EV. $100k minimum for a Taycan isn't affordable. I've driven every model of Tesla from a base-model 3 to an S Plaid. They do not handle well and have poor vehicle dynamics. Anyone who thinks they handle well has never driven a car that handles well. Even the most charitable review could be summed up as "the computer does a valiant job at hiding the car's shortcomings when it comes to handling". All of the crossover SUV EVs and Korean EV sedans are even worse. As a point of reference, I've only ever owned four models of cars in almost 30 years of driving: multiple MX-5s, an MR2, an S2000, and a Fiat Spider and those are the only kinds of cars I want to drive. To me a car that handles a curvy road well is better than a car that can accelerate to infinity within Planck time. Every single other issue most people have with EVs is irrelevant to me: I never drive more than 150 miles per day, don't care about recharging overnight, and have 50 amps of 240V in my garage ready and waiting. The only think keeping me from buying and EV is that all affordable EVs drive like trash. I know I'm not a mainstream buyer and I know I'm shit out of luck when it comes to the future of automobiles. Eventually all that will be left in the market is crossover SUVs that numb your soul to the point of despair and supercars that cost a million dollars. I just wish someone would make an affordable driver's EV. I would buy a $50k EV that didn't handle like trash, tomorrow.

reverius42 3y ago
Try the Mini Cooper SE?
saltcured 3y ago
Without more battery breakthroughs, I think you would almost have to do some kind of aftermarket/custom conversion. To get the kind of lightweight car you prefer, you need to limit the battery weight too much. Meanwhile, the mass market still has range anxiety. Look at some of those EV cars setup for famous hill climbing races, where they plan out the amount of charge they need for one short race. Then, work backwards from there what tradeoffs you would make to extend range beyond this one sprint. More battery weight for more stored charge? Less power to optimize the motor and electronics efficiency? Aero optimized for low drag instead of downforce/stability? Tires optimizes for low rolling resistance instead of sticky cornering?...

reverius42 3y ago

Try the Mini Cooper SE?

saltcured 3y ago

Without more battery breakthroughs, I think you would almost have to do some kind of aftermarket/custom conversion. To get the kind of lightweight car you prefer, you need to limit the battery weight too much. Meanwhile, the mass market still has range anxiety. Look at some of those EV cars setup for famous hill climbing races, where they plan out the amount of charge they need for one short race. Then, work backwards from there what tradeoffs you would make to extend range beyond this one sprint. More battery weight for more stored charge? Less power to optimize the motor and electronics efficiency? Aero optimized for low drag instead of downforce/stability? Tires optimizes for low rolling resistance instead of sticky cornering?...