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So what you’re saying is you helped your billion dollar mega-corp use their monopoly position to destroy another monopoly and ensure chromium would be the next

So what you’re saying is you helped your billion dollar mega-corp use their monopoly position to destroy another monopoly and ensure chromium would be the next IE.

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shadowgovt 3y ago
Browsers have a tendency to consolidate. I think "there is a dominant browser used by N-times-% of the userbase relative to the second-most-popular" is a feature endemic to the ecosystem. Much like "You can switch off Google search any time you want, but people will keep using it as the default until there's another clear better option, and then most people will switch to that instead." If browsers are pretty interchangeable, why not use the best?
bigstrat2003 3y ago
That's a pretty wild take, considering that the author specifically said they randomized the order of suggested browsers. They didn't push Chrome, they pushed "anything but IE6".
- coding123 3y ago
  I mean what he wrote is even less "wild" than the title of the post.
- Springtime 3y ago
  The grandparent comment would only be somewhat revelant in future versions of Youtube and Google services, since they did end up pushing users to 'try' Chrome exclusively (for Youtube in the footer and everything else via top banner/popups, for both Firefox and even non-Chrome Chromium browsers). Which given the lawyers' concerns in this article is curious the 180 they did.
- rekttrader 3y ago
  I distinctly remember at the time that Google even had a browser extension that loaded chromium inside the IE6 viewport... Shady browser advertising toolbar companies were using that extension to hijack and silently upgrade users into Chrome. Google bought that company as well.
duskwuff 3y ago
That seems like a fairly disingenuous take, given that the upgrade banner on YouTube also suggested upgrading to IE8 or Firefox. If anything, Microsoft was probably grateful that the YouTube announcement pushed so many users to upgrade to a newer version of MSIE.
summerlight 3y ago
It's exactly the opposite. At the moment, Microsoft had a really hard time to move users to IE7 mainly because their distribution model does not allow automatic upgrade at the time. You need to go to MSDN, download IE7 then manually install it. It's pretty clear MS was happy with this deprecation given that their response was a website called ie6countdown[1]. [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20141217174028/https://www.modern.ie/en-us/ie6countdown https://web.archive.org/web/20141217174028/https://www.moder...

So what you’re saying is you helped your billion dollar mega-corp use their monopoly position to destroy another monopoly and ensure chromium would be the next IE.

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shadowgovt 3y ago

Browsers have a tendency to consolidate. I think "there is a dominant browser used by N-times-% of the userbase relative to the second-most-popular" is a feature endemic to the ecosystem. Much like "You can switch off Google search any time you want, but people will keep using it as the default until there's another clear better option, and then most people will switch to that instead." If browsers are pretty interchangeable, why not use the best?

bigstrat2003 3y ago

That's a pretty wild take, considering that the author specifically said they randomized the order of suggested browsers. They didn't push Chrome, they pushed "anything but IE6".

coding123 3y ago
I mean what he wrote is even less "wild" than the title of the post.
Springtime 3y ago
The grandparent comment would only be somewhat revelant in future versions of Youtube and Google services, since they did end up pushing users to 'try' Chrome exclusively (for Youtube in the footer and everything else via top banner/popups, for both Firefox and even non-Chrome Chromium browsers). Which given the lawyers' concerns in this article is curious the 180 they did.
rekttrader 3y ago
I distinctly remember at the time that Google even had a browser extension that loaded chromium inside the IE6 viewport... Shady browser advertising toolbar companies were using that extension to hijack and silently upgrade users into Chrome. Google bought that company as well.

duskwuff 3y ago

That seems like a fairly disingenuous take, given that the upgrade banner on YouTube also suggested upgrading to IE8 or Firefox. If anything, Microsoft was probably grateful that the YouTube announcement pushed so many users to upgrade to a newer version of MSIE.

summerlight 3y ago

It's exactly the opposite. At the moment, Microsoft had a really hard time to move users to IE7 mainly because their distribution model does not allow automatic upgrade at the time. You need to go to MSDN, download IE7 then manually install it. It's pretty clear MS was happy with this deprecation given that their response was a website called ie6countdown[1]. [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20141217174028/https://www.modern.ie/en-us/ie6countdown https://web.archive.org/web/20141217174028/https://www.moder...