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The EV buyer wins/loses out depending on the price of fuel in the future, the interest charge for financing the EV, and the return on investment if the money wa

The EV buyer wins/loses out depending on the price of fuel in the future, the interest charge for financing the EV, and the return on investment if the money was invested in another asset.

JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
and millions of other things including their health and if they need their car overnight for a serious emergency and it's stuck at 5% charge I am very suspicious of EVs as a concept because I perceive them as something not built for me , or for my benefit or pleasure but for the environment, those sorts of things always end up being a loss for the person paying out of pocket. It's something you can't explain with numbers, when you set foot in an EV you feel in your guts that its something not built for you, for your utility or your pleasure. They are shoved down people's throats in a very suspicious way too, like it's some new level of quality of life unlocked, while it's the same old car ownership experience except you are surrounded by cheap material and you feel like you are taking one for society. That's not how I excpect to feel after I spend 30-50k, also not being able to use the car 24/7/365 when you pay 30-50k is ridiculous
- brewdad 3y ago
  Good thing no ICE owner has ever parked their car overnight with the fuel light on. They might DIE.
  - EricE 3y ago
    If they did, a quick trip to a gas station and in less than 10 minutes they are topped up. And their gas tank doesn't permanently shrink if they fill it with gas too quickly or too full either.
- idiotsecant 3y ago
  On the contrary, EVs are awesome and built precisely for my benefit. That's the problem. They are largely designed for rich people. We need EVs that last 10-15 years and can be found used for a fraction of their new cost, dinged up and a little busted but mostly still working. That's the niche where they start to make a difference because that's what most people drive.

The EV buyer wins/loses out depending on the price of fuel in the future, the interest charge for financing the EV, and the return on investment if the money was invested in another asset.

JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago

and millions of other things including their health and if they need their car overnight for a serious emergency and it's stuck at 5% charge I am very suspicious of EVs as a concept because I perceive them as something not built for me , or for my benefit or pleasure but for the environment, those sorts of things always end up being a loss for the person paying out of pocket. It's something you can't explain with numbers, when you set foot in an EV you feel in your guts that its something not built for you, for your utility or your pleasure. They are shoved down people's throats in a very suspicious way too, like it's some new level of quality of life unlocked, while it's the same old car ownership experience except you are surrounded by cheap material and you feel like you are taking one for society. That's not how I excpect to feel after I spend 30-50k, also not being able to use the car 24/7/365 when you pay 30-50k is ridiculous

brewdad 3y ago
Good thing no ICE owner has ever parked their car overnight with the fuel light on. They might DIE.
- EricE 3y ago
  If they did, a quick trip to a gas station and in less than 10 minutes they are topped up. And their gas tank doesn't permanently shrink if they fill it with gas too quickly or too full either.
idiotsecant 3y ago
On the contrary, EVs are awesome and built precisely for my benefit. That's the problem. They are largely designed for rich people. We need EVs that last 10-15 years and can be found used for a fraction of their new cost, dinged up and a little busted but mostly still working. That's the niche where they start to make a difference because that's what most people drive.