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They seem to have this unusual ability to get consumers to suddenly demand what used to be too expensive.

by ip26 3y ago

bombcar 3y ago
More importantly you can get the Board of (insert company here) to finally do X if you can show that Apple did X.
PrimeMcFly 3y ago
They don't refer to it as a cult for nothing.
- subarctic 3y ago
  An extremely large cult that has a spillover effect into larger society
- mynameisvlad 3y ago
  Or they have enough leverage for good contracts, and a lot of money on hand to be able to make semi-risky bets that others would not be willing to. Combined with good marketing and reputation. That enables them to take bigger bets than most, and their reputation means customers are more likely to buy into their big bets.
- wiseowise 3y ago
  If that’s what you call quality products, then I’d rather be a part of cult.
  - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
    > If that’s what you call quality products Well, those in the cult sure do.
  - ponector 3y ago
    Quality products which can be bricked on system update and have so many issues that everyone says to not upgrade for at least 6 months after major release! Also their software is garbage if you need to connect to or use something outside of apple ecosystem.
    - wiseowise 3y ago
      MBP user at home for 6 years and switched at least 3 MBPs at work (switching companies and generations of MBPs). iPhone user for 3 years. My gf has been using iPhones and iPads since who knows when. A couple of friends who are Apple users. I have heard zero complaints about bricked device. I routinely heard and experienced issues with Windows and Android, though.
wiseowise 3y ago
When alternatives are Windows laptops that barely work - it doesn’t seem so expensive. Case in point. Back in 2018, me and my gf bought new laptops. I’ve opted for MBP and she bought Asus Rog Strix. Both were over 2k euro. Two years after her laptop has constant issues with Windows updating all the time, WiFi modem dies until you power cycle whole machine, it randomly turns on at night or doesn’t go to sleep at all, fans that sound like jet engines even on lowest of speeds. My MBP 2018 is still a champ after all these years, I had literally zero issues with it and the only reason why I’m contemplating upgrading is how amazing M processors are. And seriously? More expensive? MacBook Air with 16GB of RAM and M processor starts at 1500 euro. It has far superior build quality, software and battery life than any Linux/Windows machine in any category. And on top of that it runs completely silently. Apple=expensive meme needs to die.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  >When alternatives are Windows laptops that barely work - it doesn’t seem so expensive. Case in point. Yeah there are some junky laptops out there, but case in point I've only had sub-1000 Euro Windows notebooks from Acer, HP and Lenovo, and all worked fine and lasted no matter how hard I abused them. Maybe I'm just super lucky. Or maybe I was an informed consumer with a trained eye to spot the good from the junk. Or both. >And seriously? More expensive? MacBook Air with 16GB of RAM and M processor starts at 1500 euro 16GB ram and how much storage? Yeah, that's pretty expensive for the specs and EU purchasing power. Case in point, for Christmas I bought myself a new Lenovo with the new 4nm Ryzen 7840HS, 32GB RAM and 1TB NVME, for ~800 Euros sticker price, no special promotion or sale. That seemed like a good deal to me. Now how much does Apple charge for 32GB RAM and 1TB storage? 2500+ Euros for 24GB RAM. Damn son! Apple are only price competitive at the bare minimum base models(8GB RAM on a "Pro" device?! Give me break Apple). When you start adding cores, RAM and storage, the price skyrockets. Each to his own if the price is worth it, I don't judge. My friend who does a lot of video editing gets his money's worth, but for my uses cases(Windows, Linux, gaming, coding), that 800 Euro laptop will be more than enough, no need to spend way more on Apple for less functionality. Battery life on those Macs is tight tough. If you're on the road a lot, and don't need windows/linux stuff, I'd definitely get one.

They seem to have this unusual ability to get consumers to suddenly demand what used to be too expensive.

by ip26 3y ago

They seem to have this unusual ability to get consumers to suddenly demand what used to be too expensive.

bombcar 3y ago

More importantly you can get the Board of (insert company here) to finally do X if you can show that Apple did X.

PrimeMcFly 3y ago

They don't refer to it as a cult for nothing.

subarctic 3y ago
An extremely large cult that has a spillover effect into larger society
mynameisvlad 3y ago
Or they have enough leverage for good contracts, and a lot of money on hand to be able to make semi-risky bets that others would not be willing to. Combined with good marketing and reputation. That enables them to take bigger bets than most, and their reputation means customers are more likely to buy into their big bets.
wiseowise 3y ago
If that’s what you call quality products, then I’d rather be a part of cult.
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago
  > If that’s what you call quality products Well, those in the cult sure do.
- ponector 3y ago
  Quality products which can be bricked on system update and have so many issues that everyone says to not upgrade for at least 6 months after major release! Also their software is garbage if you need to connect to or use something outside of apple ecosystem.
  - wiseowise 3y ago
    MBP user at home for 6 years and switched at least 3 MBPs at work (switching companies and generations of MBPs). iPhone user for 3 years. My gf has been using iPhones and iPads since who knows when. A couple of friends who are Apple users. I have heard zero complaints about bricked device. I routinely heard and experienced issues with Windows and Android, though.

wiseowise 3y ago

When alternatives are Windows laptops that barely work - it doesn’t seem so expensive. Case in point. Back in 2018, me and my gf bought new laptops. I’ve opted for MBP and she bought Asus Rog Strix. Both were over 2k euro. Two years after her laptop has constant issues with Windows updating all the time, WiFi modem dies until you power cycle whole machine, it randomly turns on at night or doesn’t go to sleep at all, fans that sound like jet engines even on lowest of speeds. My MBP 2018 is still a champ after all these years, I had literally zero issues with it and the only reason why I’m contemplating upgrading is how amazing M processors are. And seriously? More expensive? MacBook Air with 16GB of RAM and M processor starts at 1500 euro. It has far superior build quality, software and battery life than any Linux/Windows machine in any category. And on top of that it runs completely silently. Apple=expensive meme needs to die.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
>When alternatives are Windows laptops that barely work - it doesn’t seem so expensive. Case in point. Yeah there are some junky laptops out there, but case in point I've only had sub-1000 Euro Windows notebooks from Acer, HP and Lenovo, and all worked fine and lasted no matter how hard I abused them. Maybe I'm just super lucky. Or maybe I was an informed consumer with a trained eye to spot the good from the junk. Or both. >And seriously? More expensive? MacBook Air with 16GB of RAM and M processor starts at 1500 euro 16GB ram and how much storage? Yeah, that's pretty expensive for the specs and EU purchasing power. Case in point, for Christmas I bought myself a new Lenovo with the new 4nm Ryzen 7840HS, 32GB RAM and 1TB NVME, for ~800 Euros sticker price, no special promotion or sale. That seemed like a good deal to me. Now how much does Apple charge for 32GB RAM and 1TB storage? 2500+ Euros for 24GB RAM. Damn son! Apple are only price competitive at the bare minimum base models(8GB RAM on a "Pro" device?! Give me break Apple). When you start adding cores, RAM and storage, the price skyrockets. Each to his own if the price is worth it, I don't judge. My friend who does a lot of video editing gets his money's worth, but for my uses cases(Windows, Linux, gaming, coding), that 800 Euro laptop will be more than enough, no need to spend way more on Apple for less functionality. Battery life on those Macs is tight tough. If you're on the road a lot, and don't need windows/linux stuff, I'd definitely get one.