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Didn't all VR devices before it do the same?

by seydor 3y ago

pornel 3y ago
Similar, but all the components in it are a notch better — higher resolution, better pass-through video, more precise hand tracking, and much faster CPU. However, my impression from iFixit's teardown is that there's a ton of tiny boards, screws, and ribbon cables. I bet in v2 they'll figure out how to package it even more densly.
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- makeitdouble 3y ago
  That's kinda ignoring that there's more advanced headsets as well on the spectrum. I genuinely enjoy the positivity around the product and the effect it could have on the field (even as an anchoring of what any new headset wants to be from there) But that supposes the AVP is put in context, and I think we miss a lot of it. I kinda feel we're back again in the PowerPC macs vs the rest of the industry days, with Apple set in its own impermeable bubble.
  - yreg 3y ago
    What headsets are more advanced?
    - makeitdouble 3y ago
      I'd say Varjo's XR-4, with as many asterisks as we want to set (they're industrial user focused, they don't do gimmick front displays etc.) No headset will of course be ahead in all aspects, the same way the AVP isn't ahead on everything either.
0x457 3y ago
Early VR of this wave had some remarkable displays, not in a sense that "wow they are so good", but "wow HMD displays were pure trash before". Quest 1 while it was a very silly device, it was a pretty good inside-out HMD. Q2 was a lot better. All of those devices still suffered from the same issues: they can put only whatever Qualcomm can make for them. XR2 Gen 2 is slower than Snapdragon from the same generation. This is due to how "inefficient" Qualcomm SoCs compared to what Apple makes for themselves. (not M2 is meant for desktops and XR2 Gen2 is based on SoC used in mobile phones, so they were created with different power and thermal budgets in mind) I find it interesting how apple went about the "number crunching" part of AVP by making a separate coprocessor just for that. Yeah, XR2 Gen2 has similar capabilities on SoC, but I want to see benchmarks.

Didn't all VR devices before it do the same?

by seydor 3y ago

Didn't all VR devices before it do the same?

Similar, but all the components in it are a notch better — higher resolution, better pass-through video, more precise hand tracking, and much faster CPU. However, my impression from iFixit's teardown is that there's a ton of tiny boards, screws, and ribbon cables. I bet in v2 they'll figure out how to package it even more densly.

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makeitdouble 3y ago
That's kinda ignoring that there's more advanced headsets as well on the spectrum. I genuinely enjoy the positivity around the product and the effect it could have on the field (even as an anchoring of what any new headset wants to be from there) But that supposes the AVP is put in context, and I think we miss a lot of it. I kinda feel we're back again in the PowerPC macs vs the rest of the industry days, with Apple set in its own impermeable bubble.
- yreg 3y ago
  What headsets are more advanced?
  - makeitdouble 3y ago
    I'd say Varjo's XR-4, with as many asterisks as we want to set (they're industrial user focused, they don't do gimmick front displays etc.) No headset will of course be ahead in all aspects, the same way the AVP isn't ahead on everything either.

0x457 3y ago

Early VR of this wave had some remarkable displays, not in a sense that "wow they are so good", but "wow HMD displays were pure trash before". Quest 1 while it was a very silly device, it was a pretty good inside-out HMD. Q2 was a lot better. All of those devices still suffered from the same issues: they can put only whatever Qualcomm can make for them. XR2 Gen 2 is slower than Snapdragon from the same generation. This is due to how "inefficient" Qualcomm SoCs compared to what Apple makes for themselves. (not M2 is meant for desktops and XR2 Gen2 is based on SoC used in mobile phones, so they were created with different power and thermal budgets in mind) I find it interesting how apple went about the "number crunching" part of AVP by making a separate coprocessor just for that. Yeah, XR2 Gen2 has similar capabilities on SoC, but I want to see benchmarks.