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Ugh. > “Here you have ICE making a seizure, based on the say-so of the record company guys, and getting secret extensions as they wait for their masters, the r

Ugh. > “Here you have ICE making a seizure, based on the say-so of the record company guys, and getting secret extensions as they wait for their masters, the record companies, for evidence to prosecute,” Cohn [the EFF’s legal director] said in a telephone interview. “This is the RIAA controlling a government investigation and holding it up for a year.” I don't like these seizures either, nor that the RIAA has and uses its influence to tie up somebody's property this way without consequence. But the EFF seems to insist on going that one step too far when they make public comments. The wording ("secret extensions as they wait for their masters", "RIAA controlling a government investigation") turns me right off and makes them sound like cranks.

neuroelectronic 14y ago
If it's not secret then what is the reason for the extensions? I think it's clear at this point if you don't up your rhetoric in this day in age, your squeaky wheel sound is lost in the cacophony of the asshole behind the wheel honking at a man biting a dog.
beagle3 14y ago
While I don't really like this kind of editorializing, I haven't seen a better explanation for why things work the way they do -- with RIAA/MPAA people often accompanying FBI raids, writing police training material on counterfeit CDs and DVDs, and NBC hosting federal governments' anti-piracy videos on seized domains.
Natsu 14y ago
> "RIAA controlling a government investigation" Several ex RIAA lawyers hold top Justice Department posts, as was pointed out by Ray Beckerman back when they were appointed. > "secret extensions as they wait for their masters" The case was delayed for about a year because they were waiting on the RIAA for proof of infringement after seizing the site based on an RIAA complaint. But I can see your point about the way they phrased it.
stephengillie 14y ago
It's totally common to see the defendant and his lawyer sealed out of their own case.

neuroelectronic 14y ago

If it's not secret then what is the reason for the extensions? I think it's clear at this point if you don't up your rhetoric in this day in age, your squeaky wheel sound is lost in the cacophony of the asshole behind the wheel honking at a man biting a dog.

beagle3 14y ago

While I don't really like this kind of editorializing, I haven't seen a better explanation for why things work the way they do -- with RIAA/MPAA people often accompanying FBI raids, writing police training material on counterfeit CDs and DVDs, and NBC hosting federal governments' anti-piracy videos on seized domains.

Natsu 14y ago

> "RIAA controlling a government investigation" Several ex RIAA lawyers hold top Justice Department posts, as was pointed out by Ray Beckerman back when they were appointed. > "secret extensions as they wait for their masters" The case was delayed for about a year because they were waiting on the RIAA for proof of infringement after seizing the site based on an RIAA complaint. But I can see your point about the way they phrased it.

stephengillie 14y ago

It's totally common to see the defendant and his lawyer sealed out of their own case.