> If someone figures out how to make AI models run on an iPhone with zero battery use, everyone goes "yay!" This is what I call wishful thinking. I never said

> If someone figures out how to make AI models run on an iPhone with zero battery use, everyone goes "yay!" This is what I call wishful thinking. I never said Bitcoin and AI have similar energy use patterns which is the argument you are keen to make. My original argument was that AI usage is going to be worse than Bitcoin in the long run. With some AI farms using ~3000W per server, it's a no-brainer where this is all headed. Add in the fact that AI has so far proven to be more popular at launch than Bitcoin. Just because you can optimize models doesn't mean that people won't want or need bigger better models to train/use.