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As of 2022 in the US, 48% of drivers had access to off-street parking with an electric outlet. Total EV penetration is nowhere near that high. So I doubt that t

As of 2022 in the US, 48% of drivers had access to off-street parking with an electric outlet. Total EV penetration is nowhere near that high. So I doubt that this is currently the barrier. To get the remaining 1/2 of car owners we'll need lamppost and curb electric chargers. This involves towns and cities running AC electrical wiring to the curb and then installing chargers that can bill for the power. This will cost money, though the revenue should offset it. Given how much we taxpayers already pay for off-street parking (you'd be amazed at how much each parking space costs to build and maintain! It's not free!), this particular cost isn't exactly world-changing.

rurp 3y ago
That 48% number probably overstates things a fair amount because having access to a garage doesn't mean you can easily park all of your cars in it every night. I couldn't find the number of cars that actually garage park regularly but I bet it's a pretty low number. 20-25% of people don't use their garage at all for parking and, at least in the neighborhoods I see, the vast majority park at least one vehicle outside of the garage every night. Regardless of the garage situation, widespread curb charging would be a huge help for many people.
- eurleif 3y ago
  Off-street != garage. I don't have a garage, just a driveway; but I had a Tesla Wall Connector installed on the front of my house, and it easily reaches to my car in the driveway.
- Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
  You don't need to park in the garage. I park my car outside my garage. The charging cable sits under the garage door just fine and reaches my charging port without a problem.
JohnFen 3y ago
> To get the remaining 1/2 of car owners we'll need lamppost and curb electric chargers Don't forget apartments. Lamppost and curb chargers won't help them, and only the wealthier apartment owners would even consider installing sufficient chargers in their parking lots. And if there's a smaller number of chargers that have to be shared amongst the tenants, that eliminates overnight charging and increases friction (both for charging and among the tenants). 12% of the US population lives in apartment buildings. Not a huge percentage, but a rather large number of people.
- brewdad 3y ago
  Landlording is a competitive business. If the demand is there they will add them. There is no reason we can't start requiring new construction to include 240v outlets at each parking space or some large percentage of them.
  - FooBarBizBazz 3y ago
    In practice, landlords don't compete for tenants; tenants compete for apartments. The median rent in NYC is like $5k/month, and it has the lowest vacancy rates in 30 years. In the US more generally, people are spending like 40% of their take-home on rent. There is zero pressure on landlords to do anything for tenants. Tenants are barely even full citizens. You can't get a license or a bank account without an address, i.e., without paying rent. Landlords do compete with other landlords to buy properties. That's the only competition they're involved in.

rurp 3y ago

That 48% number probably overstates things a fair amount because having access to a garage doesn't mean you can easily park all of your cars in it every night. I couldn't find the number of cars that actually garage park regularly but I bet it's a pretty low number. 20-25% of people don't use their garage at all for parking and, at least in the neighborhoods I see, the vast majority park at least one vehicle outside of the garage every night. Regardless of the garage situation, widespread curb charging would be a huge help for many people.

eurleif 3y ago
Off-street != garage. I don't have a garage, just a driveway; but I had a Tesla Wall Connector installed on the front of my house, and it easily reaches to my car in the driveway.
Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
You don't need to park in the garage. I park my car outside my garage. The charging cable sits under the garage door just fine and reaches my charging port without a problem.

JohnFen 3y ago

> To get the remaining 1/2 of car owners we'll need lamppost and curb electric chargers Don't forget apartments. Lamppost and curb chargers won't help them, and only the wealthier apartment owners would even consider installing sufficient chargers in their parking lots. And if there's a smaller number of chargers that have to be shared amongst the tenants, that eliminates overnight charging and increases friction (both for charging and among the tenants). 12% of the US population lives in apartment buildings. Not a huge percentage, but a rather large number of people.

brewdad 3y ago
Landlording is a competitive business. If the demand is there they will add them. There is no reason we can't start requiring new construction to include 240v outlets at each parking space or some large percentage of them.
- FooBarBizBazz 3y ago
  In practice, landlords don't compete for tenants; tenants compete for apartments. The median rent in NYC is like $5k/month, and it has the lowest vacancy rates in 30 years. In the US more generally, people are spending like 40% of their take-home on rent. There is zero pressure on landlords to do anything for tenants. Tenants are barely even full citizens. You can't get a license or a bank account without an address, i.e., without paying rent. Landlords do compete with other landlords to buy properties. That's the only competition they're involved in.