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>I think EU is a safer bet compared to Japan EU's members in NATO have the same safety guarantee provided by the USA as Japan. The US and Japan have a direct a

>I think EU is a safer bet compared to Japan EU's members in NATO have the same safety guarantee provided by the USA as Japan. The US and Japan have a direct alliance that is a treaty guaranteed by the US if Japan is attacked compared to Ukraine's Budapest Memorandum. EU is no safer than Japan. see the current Ukraine-Russia war. Japan and Taiwan have similar work cultures and are far closer to Taiwan compared to the US. A 45-minute plan ride for TSMC's higher-up to check on their fabs in Japan is far easier

AnarchismIsCool 3y ago
>EU is no safer than Japan. see the current Ukraine-Russia war. Ok, IDK why I keep seeing this but I have yet to see any basis in objective reality for it. Two years ago? Sure. But now with Russia having expended a minimum of half of all of its military stores on a proxy war with a previously insignificant former Soviet vassal, there is no rational reason to consider them to be a security threat in the region. Yes they still have enough nukes to level pretty much everything but if that happens, everywhere becomes insecure so it's not a real consideration. The worst possible case for the EU (aside from general nuclear exchange, but again...) at this point is some sort of migrant tsunami (pun intended I guess) from a failing Russian state and subsequent loss of stability in neighboring regions to the south but I'd absolutely take that over being within rock throwing distance of an exponentially militarizing China, particularly given that the EU and China aren't even really adversaries in any meaningful way.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
  > there is no rational reason to consider them to be a security threat in the region Putin is a dictator. Actions irrational for Russia could be rational for him. Would NATO risk broad conflict if he puttered around in the Baltics? I think so. But do I know so? And wouldn’t challenging NATO like that play rather well domestically?

AnarchismIsCool 3y ago

>EU is no safer than Japan. see the current Ukraine-Russia war. Ok, IDK why I keep seeing this but I have yet to see any basis in objective reality for it. Two years ago? Sure. But now with Russia having expended a minimum of half of all of its military stores on a proxy war with a previously insignificant former Soviet vassal, there is no rational reason to consider them to be a security threat in the region. Yes they still have enough nukes to level pretty much everything but if that happens, everywhere becomes insecure so it's not a real consideration. The worst possible case for the EU (aside from general nuclear exchange, but again...) at this point is some sort of migrant tsunami (pun intended I guess) from a failing Russian state and subsequent loss of stability in neighboring regions to the south but I'd absolutely take that over being within rock throwing distance of an exponentially militarizing China, particularly given that the EU and China aren't even really adversaries in any meaningful way.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> there is no rational reason to consider them to be a security threat in the region Putin is a dictator. Actions irrational for Russia could be rational for him. Would NATO risk broad conflict if he puttered around in the Baltics? I think so. But do I know so? And wouldn’t challenging NATO like that play rather well domestically?