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Similarly, Hyundai building $8bn battery plant outside Savannah, Georgia: https://apnews.com/article/hyundai-georgia-electric-vehicle-ev-845e2729fd5220797e7984

by anonu 3y ago

Similarly, Hyundai building $8bn battery plant outside Savannah, Georgia: https://apnews.com/article/hyundai-georgia-electric-vehicle-ev-845e2729fd5220797e7984f424bc1d5c https://apnews.com/article/hyundai-georgia-electric-vehicle-...

downrightmike 3y ago
Its because the south is fairly young and impoverished, so cheaper to mfg there. Down vote, but that's the reason.
- justapassenger 3y ago
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- frogpelt 3y ago
  Have you ever been to the south? The down votes are because your position is asinine. It's more likely that southern states are willing to throw huge incentive packages to these manufacturers. Probably not so much on the coasts or the northern states. Also, unions are less common in the south; those states tend to be right-to-work states. Finally, you used the word "impoverished", which is ridiculous. But wages are lower in the south so that is probably another reason.
  - mopenstein 3y ago
    Wages are less as is the cost of living. Everything is relative.
- anonu 3y ago
  Savannah and Brunswick are huge car export ports because many manufacturing facilities are spread out between South Carolina and Georgia: Volvo, Mercedes, BMW, Honda, KIA to name a few. These ports are also the largest on the Eastern seaboard of the US. So access to shipping is probably one of the main reasons. Also major demographic shifts to the Southeastern part of the US help supply the labor pool. Georgia and South Carolina tend to be the poorest states. The Poverty rate is around 14.5% for both. Compare that to California where the poverty rate is 12.5%. Though the poverty rate is lower, California has more people in poverty than Georgia and South Carolina combined. Anyway, using the word "impoverished" is grossly misleading.
  - erikaww 3y ago
    On this impoverished statistic: does it account for more access to social services? California is much more likely to have better social services and AFAIK it is less violent in poor neighborhoods than southern states I would much rather be poor in NYC than Georgia
  - michaelmrose 3y ago
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    - DragonStrength 3y ago
      It looks like your "wall" would line up with where most of the racist folks I've met in the South would choose to put it: where the old plantations used to be which are now mostly Black, rural, and poor. I'll note CA has equally illiterate areas. It looks like it's the current agricultural centers, just like the South, so I guess you'll be pushing to have California pushed into the ocean once we're unable to grow crops there too and those workers are no longer useful to your wealthy area? Seems like you might be the type of thinking that got us in this problem originally.
    - ThunderSizzle 3y ago
      > 73% of white people voted for Trump Are you counting the black people that didn't vote Biden as white? After all, if you don't vote Biden, then you ain't black. Get over yourself. You aren't any better than all those deplorable your mocking.
  - pers0n 3y ago
    They aren’t even in the top 5. There are poorer states
- KennyBlanken 3y ago
  No, it's because Georgia is very aggressively courting large manufacturers with "phantom bonds" and "bond for title" deals. Problem is, it's not paying off - the state isn't benefiting overall from it, and as soon as they stop providing these sweetheart tax breaks and freebies, comopanies will pull up and move to the next state willing to do so
  - sram1337 3y ago
    They're going to pull up their $8bn factory?
- deleted 3y ago
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belltaco 3y ago
At least Hyundai hasn't been faking emissions tests like Toyota. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/committee-probing-toyota-unit-hino-blames-company-culture-false-data-scandal-2022-08-02/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/commit... Not to mention spending a lot on lobbying against clean air regulations aroun the world https://thedriven.io/2023/05/11/toyota-under-fire-for-anti-climate-lobbying-as-protestors-storm-vw-annual-meeting/ https://thedriven.io/2023/05/11/toyota-under-fire-for-anti-c...
- consumer451 3y ago
  As someone who used to be a stalwart fan of Toyota, their behaviour recently is not my favorite.
- KennyBlanken 3y ago
  Not to mention campaigning hard against EVs, complete with anti-EV propaganda in the form of kids' stories distributed to schools: https://electrek.co/2021/11/11/how-toyota-sneakily-spreads-anti-ev-propaganda-in-japan/ https://electrek.co/2021/11/11/how-toyota-sneakily-spreads-a...
  - ThunderSizzle 3y ago
    They can campaign against EVs, and their propaganda isn't any worse than the pro-EV propaganda that's circled around, most of which ignore very inconvenient facts around the cost-value of EVs. Given that, I have no problem with Toyota being anti-EVs and handing out information on why they are.
- otachack 3y ago
  Hyundai did skimp out on standard anti-theft mechanisms which led to a significant number of car jackings upon discovery and viral share via TikTok. https://www.forbes.com/wheels/news/kia-hyundai-car-thefts-security-kit/ https://www.forbes.com/wheels/news/kia-hyundai-car-thefts-se... Every manufacturer has got a story at this point.
- avn2109 3y ago

by anonu 3y ago

downrightmike 3y ago

Its because the south is fairly young and impoverished, so cheaper to mfg there. Down vote, but that's the reason.

justapassenger 3y ago
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frogpelt 3y ago
Have you ever been to the south? The down votes are because your position is asinine. It's more likely that southern states are willing to throw huge incentive packages to these manufacturers. Probably not so much on the coasts or the northern states. Also, unions are less common in the south; those states tend to be right-to-work states. Finally, you used the word "impoverished", which is ridiculous. But wages are lower in the south so that is probably another reason.
- mopenstein 3y ago
  Wages are less as is the cost of living. Everything is relative.
anonu 3y ago
Savannah and Brunswick are huge car export ports because many manufacturing facilities are spread out between South Carolina and Georgia: Volvo, Mercedes, BMW, Honda, KIA to name a few. These ports are also the largest on the Eastern seaboard of the US. So access to shipping is probably one of the main reasons. Also major demographic shifts to the Southeastern part of the US help supply the labor pool. Georgia and South Carolina tend to be the poorest states. The Poverty rate is around 14.5% for both. Compare that to California where the poverty rate is 12.5%. Though the poverty rate is lower, California has more people in poverty than Georgia and South Carolina combined. Anyway, using the word "impoverished" is grossly misleading.
- erikaww 3y ago
  On this impoverished statistic: does it account for more access to social services? California is much more likely to have better social services and AFAIK it is less violent in poor neighborhoods than southern states I would much rather be poor in NYC than Georgia
- michaelmrose 3y ago
  [flagged]
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
  - DragonStrength 3y ago
    It looks like your "wall" would line up with where most of the racist folks I've met in the South would choose to put it: where the old plantations used to be which are now mostly Black, rural, and poor. I'll note CA has equally illiterate areas. It looks like it's the current agricultural centers, just like the South, so I guess you'll be pushing to have California pushed into the ocean once we're unable to grow crops there too and those workers are no longer useful to your wealthy area? Seems like you might be the type of thinking that got us in this problem originally.
  - ThunderSizzle 3y ago
    > 73% of white people voted for Trump Are you counting the black people that didn't vote Biden as white? After all, if you don't vote Biden, then you ain't black. Get over yourself. You aren't any better than all those deplorable your mocking.
- pers0n 3y ago
  They aren’t even in the top 5. There are poorer states
KennyBlanken 3y ago
No, it's because Georgia is very aggressively courting large manufacturers with "phantom bonds" and "bond for title" deals. Problem is, it's not paying off - the state isn't benefiting overall from it, and as soon as they stop providing these sweetheart tax breaks and freebies, comopanies will pull up and move to the next state willing to do so
- sram1337 3y ago
  They're going to pull up their $8bn factory?
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belltaco 3y ago

At least Hyundai hasn't been faking emissions tests like Toyota. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/committee-probing-toyota-unit-hino-blames-company-culture-false-data-scandal-2022-08-02/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/commit... Not to mention spending a lot on lobbying against clean air regulations aroun the world https://thedriven.io/2023/05/11/toyota-under-fire-for-anti-climate-lobbying-as-protestors-storm-vw-annual-meeting/ https://thedriven.io/2023/05/11/toyota-under-fire-for-anti-c...

consumer451 3y ago
As someone who used to be a stalwart fan of Toyota, their behaviour recently is not my favorite.
KennyBlanken 3y ago
Not to mention campaigning hard against EVs, complete with anti-EV propaganda in the form of kids' stories distributed to schools: https://electrek.co/2021/11/11/how-toyota-sneakily-spreads-anti-ev-propaganda-in-japan/ https://electrek.co/2021/11/11/how-toyota-sneakily-spreads-a...
- ThunderSizzle 3y ago
  They can campaign against EVs, and their propaganda isn't any worse than the pro-EV propaganda that's circled around, most of which ignore very inconvenient facts around the cost-value of EVs. Given that, I have no problem with Toyota being anti-EVs and handing out information on why they are.
otachack 3y ago
Hyundai did skimp out on standard anti-theft mechanisms which led to a significant number of car jackings upon discovery and viral share via TikTok. https://www.forbes.com/wheels/news/kia-hyundai-car-thefts-security-kit/ https://www.forbes.com/wheels/news/kia-hyundai-car-thefts-se... Every manufacturer has got a story at this point.
avn2109 3y ago