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I think it's fair to include the rest of the sentence as context: > In its illiberal guise, protantalism can be motivated by an ugly ethno-nationalist undercur

by CBLT 3y ago

I think it's fair to include the rest of the sentence as context: > In its illiberal guise, protantalism can be motivated by an ugly ethno-nationalist undercurrent which views pronatalism as a means of avoiding what it perceives to be the evils of mass-immigration, which is seen in catastrophic terms as tantamount to ethnic replacement and racial/civilisational suicide I don't really understand your point, however. What about the article's views are you objecting to?

thriftwy 3y ago
Encouraging open borders and mass immigration is not the only permitted immigration policy. Most countries in the world, including large and economically developed ones like Japan and China, do not have this policy. In fact, even developed countries in the West do not have such policy codified into law - quite the contrary. It is highly disingenous to suggest that it is the only option and to preemptively scold the reader for thinking any other options may be considered. Even worse when it is done in such form and in an article suggested to be a pop science piece instead of a political pamphlet. The quoted statement will never ever pass a NPOV check.
- downWidOutaFite 3y ago
  We are different than those other countries. We are a nation of immigrants. It is one of the things that makes us great. Those that want to prevent migration from "shithole countries" are anti American.
  - thriftwy 3y ago
    That's exactly what I'm talking about: injecting one specific strong political position into a pop sci text. Moreover, I would also downvote an article filled with American messiah complex for a single reason that I don't live there so it is irrelevant and confusing. Nowhere in the article does it say it's not applicable to other countries, moveover it can't stop talking about the whole planet.

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I think it's fair to include the rest of the sentence as context: > In its illiberal guise, protantalism can be motivated by an ugly ethno-nationalist undercur

by CBLT 3y ago

thriftwy 3y ago
Encouraging open borders and mass immigration is not the only permitted immigration policy. Most countries in the world, including large and economically developed ones like Japan and China, do not have this policy. In fact, even developed countries in the West do not have such policy codified into law - quite the contrary. It is highly disingenous to suggest that it is the only option and to preemptively scold the reader for thinking any other options may be considered. Even worse when it is done in such form and in an article suggested to be a pop science piece instead of a political pamphlet. The quoted statement will never ever pass a NPOV check.
- downWidOutaFite 3y ago
  We are different than those other countries. We are a nation of immigrants. It is one of the things that makes us great. Those that want to prevent migration from "shithole countries" are anti American.
  - thriftwy 3y ago
    That's exactly what I'm talking about: injecting one specific strong political position into a pop sci text. Moreover, I would also downvote an article filled with American messiah complex for a single reason that I don't live there so it is irrelevant and confusing. Nowhere in the article does it say it's not applicable to other countries, moveover it can't stop talking about the whole planet.