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All languages that keep evolving get more complex over time. The changes are always intended to make programs written in the language simpler. Go moves at a pr

All languages that keep evolving get more complex over time. The changes are always intended to make programs written in the language simpler. Go moves at a pretty slow pace, adding only minor new features (and thus minor complications) in most releases. Even in 1.22, they are previewing a new feature, range-over-functions, which seem to be basically C#/Python's iterator functions - a feature which will, of course, complicate the language - but make certain programs simpler. As a general rule, the more features a language has, the shorter program that implements a particular algorithm can be, but the harder it is to learn, and the bigger the chance that it will be misunderstood. There are exceptions where certain features make languages more verbose (e.g. access modifiers), but typically only in minor ways.

KingOfCoders 3y ago
"range-over-functions" Yes, something people coming to Go would have assumed worked before looking at all range cases, but didn't.
- simiones 3y ago
  range-over-functions is the experimental new feature where a function can generate a sequence by executing a bit at a time, i.e. s := []string{"hello", "world"} for i, x := range slices.Backward(s) { fmt.Println(i, x) } func Backward[E any](s []E) func(func(int, E) bool) { return func(yield func(int, E) bool) { for i := len(s)-1; i >= 0; i-- { if !yield(i, s[i]) { return } } } } I don't think anyone expects this to work in Go as it is today, it's just a new feature that will make the language more complex, but it will make certain kinds of programs simpler to write. I should also note that the official name is "range-over-function iterators", I called it by a wrong name earlier.
  - KingOfCoders 3y ago
    Yes might depend on where you come from. As someone with decades of Java experience - not a fancy language over most of its lifecycle - I was mystified why there is no Iterator support as in Java for loops.
    - simiones 3y ago
      Oh, now I understand what you mean - you're thinking of this as a way to do `for (T x : collection)` in Java. I see this as more like the `yield return` functions of C#, which I definitely wasn't expecting. That can of course also be used to implement an iterator for a collection, but it seems much more general. Given that before generics Go had exactly 3 types of collections, and that those were all iterable with range, I guess I never thought about this thing missing from the for loop.
      - KingOfCoders 3y ago
        Iterator is not only about collections. Its not as powerful as a yield around continuations but you can return whatever you like. ~15 (?) years ago I wrote a "famous" blog post on how to use Iterator as a poor man Maybe/Option. for (String s: m Option<String>) { // Executed on Some }
    - EE84M3i 3y ago
      An idomatic way to do this now is to start a goroutine and range over a channel it writes to. Less ergonomic and more error prone, but it works.

KingOfCoders 3y ago

"range-over-functions" Yes, something people coming to Go would have assumed worked before looking at all range cases, but didn't.

simiones 3y ago
range-over-functions is the experimental new feature where a function can generate a sequence by executing a bit at a time, i.e. s := []string{"hello", "world"} for i, x := range slices.Backward(s) { fmt.Println(i, x) } func Backward[E any](s []E) func(func(int, E) bool) { return func(yield func(int, E) bool) { for i := len(s)-1; i >= 0; i-- { if !yield(i, s[i]) { return } } } } I don't think anyone expects this to work in Go as it is today, it's just a new feature that will make the language more complex, but it will make certain kinds of programs simpler to write. I should also note that the official name is "range-over-function iterators", I called it by a wrong name earlier.
- KingOfCoders 3y ago
  Yes might depend on where you come from. As someone with decades of Java experience - not a fancy language over most of its lifecycle - I was mystified why there is no Iterator support as in Java for loops.
  - simiones 3y ago
    Oh, now I understand what you mean - you're thinking of this as a way to do `for (T x : collection)` in Java. I see this as more like the `yield return` functions of C#, which I definitely wasn't expecting. That can of course also be used to implement an iterator for a collection, but it seems much more general. Given that before generics Go had exactly 3 types of collections, and that those were all iterable with range, I guess I never thought about this thing missing from the for loop.
    - KingOfCoders 3y ago
      Iterator is not only about collections. Its not as powerful as a yield around continuations but you can return whatever you like. ~15 (?) years ago I wrote a "famous" blog post on how to use Iterator as a poor man Maybe/Option. for (String s: m Option<String>) { // Executed on Some }
  - EE84M3i 3y ago
    An idomatic way to do this now is to start a goroutine and range over a channel it writes to. Less ergonomic and more error prone, but it works.