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It's a buggy insecure mess. No one should be advocating for wordpress.

by PrimeMcFly 3y ago

tambourine_man 3y ago
I’d like to know the name of this alternative that’s as feature-rich and yet bullet-proof while still being open source
- rastographics 3y ago
  it's called processwire and once I found it I never looked back
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago
  Django and Wagtail is one option. Do a little research and you'll find others.
  - vdaea 3y ago
    Neither are written in PHP so they don't work on most cheap hostings.
    - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
      You can get a kimsufi server for $6/month, and there is plenty of cheap hosting offering django, pretty sure you can even find python hosting for free up until a point.
dawnerd 3y ago
The only buggy or insecure code is really from third party plugins and themes. Wordpress core has been rock solid. Ya you still need to setup caching and there’s some modifications to run it at scale but that’s all a solved problem thanks to the likes of Automattic and their VIP platform.
- agos 3y ago
  how much of that ⅓ of the internet is running third party plugins and themes on their WP installation?
  - Macha 3y ago
    If they hired bespoke custom development from contractors at the price range these WP sites are developed for, do you think that would be better code?
  - dawnerd 3y ago
    How much of the rest of the web are using third party dependencies in their code? We’ve built sites for a very large social media company where everything had to be audited before production including third party plugins. WP VIP has a list of plugins they’ve vetted and/or applied their own patches to secure.
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago
  > The only buggy or insecure code is really from third party plugins and themes. Wordpress core has been rock solid. Rock solid? I don't really trust the codebase at all, and generally you need at least some plugins.
seydor 3y ago
nature abhors a vacuum
collyw 3y ago
It depends on who you listen to. Non coders seem to love Wordpress. I worked in a place with a Django booking site and a Wordpress marketing site. The other two devs knew PHP, while I know python, they advised me not to learn it and to stay away.

It's a buggy insecure mess. No one should be advocating for wordpress.

tambourine_man 3y ago

I’d like to know the name of this alternative that’s as feature-rich and yet bullet-proof while still being open source

rastographics 3y ago
it's called processwire and once I found it I never looked back
PrimeMcFly 3y ago
Django and Wagtail is one option. Do a little research and you'll find others.
- vdaea 3y ago
  Neither are written in PHP so they don't work on most cheap hostings.
  - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
    You can get a kimsufi server for $6/month, and there is plenty of cheap hosting offering django, pretty sure you can even find python hosting for free up until a point.

dawnerd 3y ago

The only buggy or insecure code is really from third party plugins and themes. Wordpress core has been rock solid. Ya you still need to setup caching and there’s some modifications to run it at scale but that’s all a solved problem thanks to the likes of Automattic and their VIP platform.

agos 3y ago
how much of that ⅓ of the internet is running third party plugins and themes on their WP installation?
- Macha 3y ago
  If they hired bespoke custom development from contractors at the price range these WP sites are developed for, do you think that would be better code?
- dawnerd 3y ago
  How much of the rest of the web are using third party dependencies in their code? We’ve built sites for a very large social media company where everything had to be audited before production including third party plugins. WP VIP has a list of plugins they’ve vetted and/or applied their own patches to secure.
PrimeMcFly 3y ago
> The only buggy or insecure code is really from third party plugins and themes. Wordpress core has been rock solid. Rock solid? I don't really trust the codebase at all, and generally you need at least some plugins.

seydor 3y ago

nature abhors a vacuum

collyw 3y ago

It depends on who you listen to. Non coders seem to love Wordpress. I worked in a place with a Django booking site and a Wordpress marketing site. The other two devs knew PHP, while I know python, they advised me not to learn it and to stay away.