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I can't read dutch, but machine translated to english the "original source" as referenced in your link says this: > The example that comes like a Hollywood sce

by croon 3y ago

I can't read dutch, but machine translated to english the "original source" as referenced in your link says this: > The example that comes like a Hollywood scenario has really happened that way.

n2d4 3y ago
Here's a better translation: > This example, which seems like a Hollywood scenario, actually happened.
- depereo 3y ago
  The best translation, however, is from Fortinet's clarifying statement. https://mastodon.social/@jasonkoebler/111892744775689047 https://mastodon.social/@jasonkoebler/111892744775689047 "It appears that due to translations the narrative on this topic has been stretched to the point where hypothetical and actual scenarios are blurred"
greenyoda 3y ago
> I can't read dutch, but... It's not Dutch, it's German, so trying to translate it as if it were Dutch would give strange results (although Google Translate tried to do it anyway, and came fairly close, due to the languages being somewhat related). The original sentence: "Das Beispiel, das wie ein Hollywood-Szenario daherkommt, hat sich wirklich so zugetragen." Translating from German, Google Translate gave me: "This example, which seems like a Hollywood scenario, actually happened." Translating, as if it were Dutch, Google Translate gave me: "The play, the one who comes to a Hollywood theater, is such a work in itself."
- tauchunfall 3y ago
  >It's not Dutch, it's German, so trying to translate it as if it were Dutch would give strange results Anecdote: One of my coworkers once thought that Dutch means German. I guess it was because the words "dutch" and "deutsch" look so similar.
  - dredmorbius 3y ago
    It's possible that terms such as "Pennsylvania Dutch", which refers to the German-Paletine originating Amish and other groups within the US state of Pennsylvania, might account for some of this confusion. The "Dutch" in that case are actually "Deutsch", that is, of German origin. That said, the Dutch language is among the Germanic languages, and is closely-related to German itself (similarly, the Dutch-derived Afrikaans, with which Dutch is largely mutually intelligible). To someone reasonably fluent in German, Dutch looks like a somewhat garbled variant. Similarly Danish, though the spoken form varies considerably from the orthography, and Norwegian, also closely related. Contemporary German shares many words and a fair bit of grammar with English as well, making blingualism in both relatively easy, compared with, say, more distant languages such as English-Arabic or English-Mandarin.
- croon 3y ago
  You're right, and I should've realized that, but I just used the browser translation and must've misread deutsch for dutch. Regardless, the translation is close enough to yours (albeit grammatically awkward).

by croon 3y ago

I can't read dutch, but machine translated to english the "original source" as referenced in your link says this: > The example that comes like a Hollywood scenario has really happened that way.

n2d4 3y ago

Here's a better translation: > This example, which seems like a Hollywood scenario, actually happened.

depereo 3y ago
The best translation, however, is from Fortinet's clarifying statement. https://mastodon.social/@jasonkoebler/111892744775689047 https://mastodon.social/@jasonkoebler/111892744775689047 "It appears that due to translations the narrative on this topic has been stretched to the point where hypothetical and actual scenarios are blurred"

greenyoda 3y ago

> I can't read dutch, but... It's not Dutch, it's German, so trying to translate it as if it were Dutch would give strange results (although Google Translate tried to do it anyway, and came fairly close, due to the languages being somewhat related). The original sentence: "Das Beispiel, das wie ein Hollywood-Szenario daherkommt, hat sich wirklich so zugetragen." Translating from German, Google Translate gave me: "This example, which seems like a Hollywood scenario, actually happened." Translating, as if it were Dutch, Google Translate gave me: "The play, the one who comes to a Hollywood theater, is such a work in itself."

tauchunfall 3y ago
>It's not Dutch, it's German, so trying to translate it as if it were Dutch would give strange results Anecdote: One of my coworkers once thought that Dutch means German. I guess it was because the words "dutch" and "deutsch" look so similar.
- dredmorbius 3y ago
  It's possible that terms such as "Pennsylvania Dutch", which refers to the German-Paletine originating Amish and other groups within the US state of Pennsylvania, might account for some of this confusion. The "Dutch" in that case are actually "Deutsch", that is, of German origin. That said, the Dutch language is among the Germanic languages, and is closely-related to German itself (similarly, the Dutch-derived Afrikaans, with which Dutch is largely mutually intelligible). To someone reasonably fluent in German, Dutch looks like a somewhat garbled variant. Similarly Danish, though the spoken form varies considerably from the orthography, and Norwegian, also closely related. Contemporary German shares many words and a fair bit of grammar with English as well, making blingualism in both relatively easy, compared with, say, more distant languages such as English-Arabic or English-Mandarin.
croon 3y ago
You're right, and I should've realized that, but I just used the browser translation and must've misread deutsch for dutch. Regardless, the translation is close enough to yours (albeit grammatically awkward).