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The problem is not made public...except in the New Yorker? Except by the president of the United States? Shifting blame towards land management practices - not
by wk_end 3y ago
The problem is not made public...except in the New Yorker? Except by the president of the United States?
Shifting blame towards land management practices - not necessarily by you, but for example by that particular POTUS - is often an attempt to downplay global warming and the urgent need to do take steps to stave it off, rather than a good-faith attempt to reform land management practices. If people detect a whiff of that, that's what makes them downvote; given the present and future consequences of downplaying global warming and the urgent need to take steps to stave it off, and the push that's been behind that for the past, oh, fifty-to-seventy years or so, can you blame them? No one's against reforming land management to prevent forest fires.
- kcplate 3y ago> is often an attempt to downplay global warming and the urgent need to do take steps to stave it off… I mean so what…. I don’t see how having a conversation about taking a practical steps to avoid a disaster should be suppressed just because the person initiating the conversation might have a different opinion on a related subject.
- wk_end 3y agoYou or I may want to have a conversation about taking practical steps to avoid a disaster, but personally speaking I don't want to have it with a hypothetical interlocutor who is not having that conversation in good faith, but rather weaponizing it in an attempt to further their catastrophic political goals.
- kcplate 3y ago“The northwest might burn to the ground, people may die or be displaced, but god dammit we simply cannot give that political party a win (even if we win too).” Yep, that attitude that makes perfect sense for society.
- wk_end 3y agoDownvoting someone on HN for arguing in bad faith isn't keeping "a political party" from having "a win", much less determining whether or not the PNW is going to burn down.
- kcplate 3y agoI am a pragmatist so I am “results oriented” instead of “intention oriented”. But if you feel the need to try and suppress comments on here because it creates suspicion in you around the intentions of the commenter that’s your thing. For what it’s worth, I won’t downvote anyone on here for anything or any opinion whether I agree with the opinion or the commenter’s intention.
- graemep 3y agoHow do you know someone "arguing in bad faith"? They might have different views from you, that you are certain are wrong, but they might be entirely sincere.
- wk_end 3y agoDescribing it as "an experiment" to see how people would respond to it is one tip-off.