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Ok? What percentage of workers similar to you have been laid off like you have? Is your experience the minority or the majority? Your personal experience really

Ok? What percentage of workers similar to you have been laid off like you have? Is your experience the minority or the majority? Your personal experience really doesn't mean anything. It absolutely certainly doesn't allow you to make absolutist sweeping statements like "no amount of effort will save you from layoffs. The only thing that will save you is luck". You've been laid off on average once every 2 years. I've been laid off once in 19 years. Did I just get lucky? Does it really just all come down to luck like you claim? Or is there more that goes into it? Maybe someone could do the math - if everyone had the same "luck" as you, what are the odds that I made it 19 years with only 1 layoff?

kypro 3y ago
I wasn't very clear – I wasn't suggesting my experience is typical at all, I was simply stating that I was commenting from the perspective of someone who's experienced a lot of layoffs, and that in my experience you generally don't expect them. I think there is this idea that under-performers are the ones that lose their jobs in layoffs – or at least that's what I used to think. Yet, despite always being one of the most valuable people in my team, this has never protected me, or the majority of people I've seen who have lost their jobs. That's really my point. That said, if you are an under-performer you probably will increase your odds of being laid off. I have seen a number of downsizings before where people are cut because they were performing as well as others. So maybe I should have clarified that a bit more, but I would still stand by my overall point that assuming you're not under-performing you're probably not at any increased risk of layoffs vs someone who's outperforming. And perhaps one final caveat here is that if you are an out-performer and you are laid off you will probably find it easier to find work in the future because at the very least the people you've worked with in the past will want to work with you again.

kypro 3y ago

I wasn't very clear – I wasn't suggesting my experience is typical at all, I was simply stating that I was commenting from the perspective of someone who's experienced a lot of layoffs, and that in my experience you generally don't expect them. I think there is this idea that under-performers are the ones that lose their jobs in layoffs – or at least that's what I used to think. Yet, despite always being one of the most valuable people in my team, this has never protected me, or the majority of people I've seen who have lost their jobs. That's really my point. That said, if you are an under-performer you probably will increase your odds of being laid off. I have seen a number of downsizings before where people are cut because they were performing as well as others. So maybe I should have clarified that a bit more, but I would still stand by my overall point that assuming you're not under-performing you're probably not at any increased risk of layoffs vs someone who's outperforming. And perhaps one final caveat here is that if you are an out-performer and you are laid off you will probably find it easier to find work in the future because at the very least the people you've worked with in the past will want to work with you again.