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> Do people try to push it that strongly for small teams? Yes. You have to understand that a lot of people without the benefit of experience will often base th

> Do people try to push it that strongly for small teams? Yes. You have to understand that a lot of people without the benefit of experience will often base their technology choices on blog posts. K8S has a lot of mindshare and blog attention, so it gets seen as the only way to run a container in a production environment, while all the important aspects of it are ignored.

cortesoft 3y ago
I get that, but I just get frustrated in the same way I get frustrated with all the "you don't need it" responses to any topic... what about all of us that DO work for bigger companies and DO need to use this stuff? Where can we gather to talk about it without being constantly told we don't need the features?
- ehutch79 3y ago
  They don’t read those blogs. And if they do, the decision makers have enough experience to know that “your dog blog doesn’t need k8s” doesn’t apply to their 100000 mau app
  - cortesoft 3y ago
    I am literally one of the decision makers at a larger company, with more than 10000 servers in hundreds of data centers around the world. Yes, I am experienced and smart enough to know the statements that don't apply to me. My frustration is that I want to discuss the best tools and techniques the industry is exploring, but every time I start to have those conversations, someone comments that I don't need it.
    - ehutch79 3y ago
      You're in the wrong spaces. I don't know where you should be to have those conversations, but I imagine it involves (social / interpersonal) networking. You need to be talking to people in the same role or at the same level as you. Places like hacker news, or reddit, or twitter, are all full of random people, many of whom are just beginning their journey. Recommending multi node orchestration when they'd struggle to get nginx running on it's own, would be inappropriate. They don't need k8s. There's a significant danger of cargo culting here.

cortesoft 3y ago

I get that, but I just get frustrated in the same way I get frustrated with all the "you don't need it" responses to any topic... what about all of us that DO work for bigger companies and DO need to use this stuff? Where can we gather to talk about it without being constantly told we don't need the features?

ehutch79 3y ago
They don’t read those blogs. And if they do, the decision makers have enough experience to know that “your dog blog doesn’t need k8s” doesn’t apply to their 100000 mau app
- cortesoft 3y ago
  I am literally one of the decision makers at a larger company, with more than 10000 servers in hundreds of data centers around the world. Yes, I am experienced and smart enough to know the statements that don't apply to me. My frustration is that I want to discuss the best tools and techniques the industry is exploring, but every time I start to have those conversations, someone comments that I don't need it.
  - ehutch79 3y ago
    You're in the wrong spaces. I don't know where you should be to have those conversations, but I imagine it involves (social / interpersonal) networking. You need to be talking to people in the same role or at the same level as you. Places like hacker news, or reddit, or twitter, are all full of random people, many of whom are just beginning their journey. Recommending multi node orchestration when they'd struggle to get nginx running on it's own, would be inappropriate. They don't need k8s. There's a significant danger of cargo culting here.