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By that definition, forcing a dad to work for child support (which happens sometimes, and I fully understand why) is slavery. That definition can apply to a lot
by mardifoufs 3y ago
By that definition, forcing a dad to work for child support (which happens sometimes, and I fully understand why) is slavery. That definition can apply to a lot of stuff if you stretch it, or if you remove context. Obviously having to work when you put yourself in a situation through the consequences of your own actions, with a sentence and due process, is not slavery. Having to work to provide for your children (legally so) is not slavery either. Now you can totally be against prison labor, I myself don't think it is beneficial for anyone, but you don't have to say it's "slavery" just to frame it as a pro or anti slavery debate lol.
By the legal definition of kidnapping, putting someone in jail could be considered to be kidnapping yet everyone knows very well that it just isn't the same
- ceejayoz 3y ago> By that definition, forcing a dad to work for child support (which happens sometimes, and I fully understand why) is slavery. We don't force deadbeat dads to work; we force them to make payments. You can sell assets, use savings, beg/borrow/steal, but you're obligated to make the payments. If we assigned a job to deadbeat dads, that would be involuntary servitude. (Certain levels of avoiding child support payments being a crime, this is currently Constitutionally permissible, but uncommon.) > By the legal definition of kidnapping, putting someone in jail could be considered to be kidnapping yet everyone knows very well that it just isn't the same No. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1201 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1201 The second word in the definition is unlawfully. Putting someone in jail via due process is not unlawful. I know we all like to think of Congress as entirely feckless, but the interns writing the regs typically aren't idiots.