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The left-wing folks aggressively deny there is any sort of problem I'm not familiar with anyone, at least in the mainstream of politics, doing this. I think it

by dfxm12 3y ago

The left-wing folks aggressively deny there is any sort of problem I'm not familiar with anyone, at least in the mainstream of politics, doing this. I think it is important to note the mainstream, because we do have tons of elected officials and mainstream cable news talking heads making the "warzone" argument (and deliberately mischaracterizing any attempts at police or justice system reform).

colechristensen 3y ago
I know many people personally who do it in conversations with me. Locally we have a county attorney who ran and won on, essentially, a platform to not prosecute crimes. She's done such a bad job that in a few egregious cases the state attorney general took cases over. It has gotten to the point where there are liberal-talking-point topics that I just don't address with good friends in the same way you avoid anything political with the slightly unhinged conservative uncle. I'm not familiar with anyone, at least in the mainstream of politics, who is talking about crime and criminals in a way that seems like they are actually interested in making the situation better.
- thisgoesnowhere 3y ago
  I have yet to see a politician who has ran on "not prosecuting crime" and winning. It's a batshit crazy mega unpopular opinion that we should not prosecute crime so I'm shocked you are so close to someone who was able to succeed on that. Can you share who this person is so I can look up what they ran on?
  - colechristensen 3y ago
    Mary Moriarty, Hennepin County Attorney Of course she said she'd be tough vaguely on violent crime, then but then what she actually meant which was "In addition to prosecution and incarceration in appropriate cases, Mary’s approach to community safety will include: * Offering restorative justice practices as an option for victims. * Advocating for community-based alternatives to incarceration in appropriate cases, including supporting these alternatives at the legislature and pushing for increased funding. * Partnering with schools, families, and others to ensure children who commit crimes have options with structure and support to help them succeed. Closely coordinating with community corrections officials to improve the quality and effectiveness of supervision." One of the most egregious cases involved two teenagers who were paid to kill a young mother, they broke down her door and shot her to death in the middle of the night. Moriarty offered them a plea deal for less than 2 years in juvenile detention. https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/walz-intervenes-assigns-ag-ellison-to-handle-zaria-mckeever-murder-case/ https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/walz-intervenes-assigns-...
    - thisgoesnowhere 3y ago
      Ooooooof yikes. It's weird because on one side I agree with her that we are punishing the youth who commit small crimes too hard, but on the other hand I think murder is a different beast entirely. If what I've read about the case is right I think it's awful what was done. Doesn't seem to be much support for her from my brief search online. So that's a bonus.

by dfxm12 3y ago

colechristensen 3y ago

I know many people personally who do it in conversations with me. Locally we have a county attorney who ran and won on, essentially, a platform to not prosecute crimes. She's done such a bad job that in a few egregious cases the state attorney general took cases over. It has gotten to the point where there are liberal-talking-point topics that I just don't address with good friends in the same way you avoid anything political with the slightly unhinged conservative uncle. I'm not familiar with anyone, at least in the mainstream of politics, who is talking about crime and criminals in a way that seems like they are actually interested in making the situation better.

thisgoesnowhere 3y ago
I have yet to see a politician who has ran on "not prosecuting crime" and winning. It's a batshit crazy mega unpopular opinion that we should not prosecute crime so I'm shocked you are so close to someone who was able to succeed on that. Can you share who this person is so I can look up what they ran on?
- colechristensen 3y ago
  Mary Moriarty, Hennepin County Attorney Of course she said she'd be tough vaguely on violent crime, then but then what she actually meant which was "In addition to prosecution and incarceration in appropriate cases, Mary’s approach to community safety will include: * Offering restorative justice practices as an option for victims. * Advocating for community-based alternatives to incarceration in appropriate cases, including supporting these alternatives at the legislature and pushing for increased funding. * Partnering with schools, families, and others to ensure children who commit crimes have options with structure and support to help them succeed. Closely coordinating with community corrections officials to improve the quality and effectiveness of supervision." One of the most egregious cases involved two teenagers who were paid to kill a young mother, they broke down her door and shot her to death in the middle of the night. Moriarty offered them a plea deal for less than 2 years in juvenile detention. https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/walz-intervenes-assigns-ag-ellison-to-handle-zaria-mckeever-murder-case/ https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/walz-intervenes-assigns-...
  - thisgoesnowhere 3y ago
    Ooooooof yikes. It's weird because on one side I agree with her that we are punishing the youth who commit small crimes too hard, but on the other hand I think murder is a different beast entirely. If what I've read about the case is right I think it's awful what was done. Doesn't seem to be much support for her from my brief search online. So that's a bonus.