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Arguing about "facts" and statistics, when it is literally impossible to report basic crimes like robbery to police is pointless!

X6S1x6Okd1st 3y ago
What do you mean it's literally impossible to report robberies to the police?
- zhivota 3y ago
  Police stop taking reports of crimes they will not pursue or won't be prosecuted. There is no "fact" saying how much crime is occurring, only a snapshot of how many reports were accepted and filed by the police.
- Throw73747 3y ago
  They just refuse to take report, with some bullshit excuse. Like under $950 it is misdemeanor.. Everything in shop is locked up, but crime is down!
- threemux 3y ago
  If you report a minor robbery to the police in any large American city and you aren't a public figure, there is functionally a 0% chance of them following up on it much less solving it. The only benefit for reporting is if you plan to make an insurance claim. If not, there is no point to reporting a minor robbery to the police. Robberies and property crimes are hugely underreported in official statistics because the first time you try to report one you realize that it makes a bad situation worse by wasting your time after the event. That is what they're talking about.
  - feoren 3y ago
    Other benefits of reporting it, other than insurance, is that it makes these kinds of statistics more accurate, and that in the unlikely event that they "accidentally" solve the case, it'll be easier for you to get your stuff back. The latter can happen if they arrest someone for some other reason and find what appears to be a bunch of stolen property or something. It's not likely, but it seems like it'd still be worth reporting the crime. But you make a good point that a lackluster police response does lower the incidence of reporting crimes, effectively doctoring crime statistics. You'd have to evaluate whether this trend has increased or decreased relative to historical periods when factoring that into any comparison, though.
  - sp0rk 3y ago
    > If you report a minor robbery to the police in any large American city and you aren't a public figure, there is functionally a 0% chance of them following up on it much less solving it. I have known people that had stolen things returned because the police found the items while investigating/arresting the thief for other crimes. It seems foolish to not bother with filing a report just because they aren't actively investigating every report they receive.

X6S1x6Okd1st 3y ago

What do you mean it's literally impossible to report robberies to the police?

zhivota 3y ago
Police stop taking reports of crimes they will not pursue or won't be prosecuted. There is no "fact" saying how much crime is occurring, only a snapshot of how many reports were accepted and filed by the police.
Throw73747 3y ago
They just refuse to take report, with some bullshit excuse. Like under $950 it is misdemeanor.. Everything in shop is locked up, but crime is down!
threemux 3y ago
If you report a minor robbery to the police in any large American city and you aren't a public figure, there is functionally a 0% chance of them following up on it much less solving it. The only benefit for reporting is if you plan to make an insurance claim. If not, there is no point to reporting a minor robbery to the police. Robberies and property crimes are hugely underreported in official statistics because the first time you try to report one you realize that it makes a bad situation worse by wasting your time after the event. That is what they're talking about.
- feoren 3y ago
  Other benefits of reporting it, other than insurance, is that it makes these kinds of statistics more accurate, and that in the unlikely event that they "accidentally" solve the case, it'll be easier for you to get your stuff back. The latter can happen if they arrest someone for some other reason and find what appears to be a bunch of stolen property or something. It's not likely, but it seems like it'd still be worth reporting the crime. But you make a good point that a lackluster police response does lower the incidence of reporting crimes, effectively doctoring crime statistics. You'd have to evaluate whether this trend has increased or decreased relative to historical periods when factoring that into any comparison, though.
- sp0rk 3y ago
  > If you report a minor robbery to the police in any large American city and you aren't a public figure, there is functionally a 0% chance of them following up on it much less solving it. I have known people that had stolen things returned because the police found the items while investigating/arresting the thief for other crimes. It seems foolish to not bother with filing a report just because they aren't actively investigating every report they receive.