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Transparent account migration is one of the most interesting parts of AT to me, as a user, so I for one am glad they went their own way. That said I don't real

Transparent account migration is one of the most interesting parts of AT to me, as a user, so I for one am glad they went their own way. That said I don't really know Matrix at the protocol level, so I can't really speak to it, but just based off of what you said.

Arathorn 3y ago
So Matrix also has account portability (almost) - https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/blob/kegan/pseudo-ids/proposals/4014-pseudonymous-identities.md https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/blob/keg... and https://github.com/devonh/matrix-spec-proposals/blob/cryptoIDs/proposals/4080-cryptographic-identities.md https://github.com/devonh/matrix-spec-proposals/blob/cryptoI..., implemented in Dendrite. Unfortunately dev is paused on it currently thanks to lack of $ though. The AP approach (prioritising portable identities over portable account data) is cute though, and perhaps we should have prioritised that as an alternative to fullblown cryptographic IDs & account portability.
- steveklabnik 3y ago
  Thanks for the context! I use Matrix daily, so I am interested in these details, I just haven't found the time to dig into things yet.
- Ericson2314 3y ago
  The ideal situation is that BlueSky and Matrix (/Element, let's be real) are giving hoards of money and are dancing around each other in a daring game of adversarial interop. I want a Cold War-scale federation competition, dammit! :)
  - Arathorn 3y ago
    I would love both BlueSky & Matrix (and/or Element) to be given hoards of money and for us to race each other to the best federation imaginable (and then bridge it all together and live happily ever after)
ianopolous 3y ago
To be clear, strong account portability predates Bluesky by ~5 years. Peergos[0], as reviewed by Jay before Bluesky Inc was created, has had this for years: https://book.peergos.org/features/migration.html https://book.peergos.org/features/migration.html So they didn't actually need to go their own way. [0] https://github.com/peergos/peergos https://github.com/peergos/peergos

Arathorn 3y ago

So Matrix also has account portability (almost) - https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/blob/kegan/pseudo-ids/proposals/4014-pseudonymous-identities.md https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/blob/keg... and https://github.com/devonh/matrix-spec-proposals/blob/cryptoIDs/proposals/4080-cryptographic-identities.md https://github.com/devonh/matrix-spec-proposals/blob/cryptoI..., implemented in Dendrite. Unfortunately dev is paused on it currently thanks to lack of $ though. The AP approach (prioritising portable identities over portable account data) is cute though, and perhaps we should have prioritised that as an alternative to fullblown cryptographic IDs & account portability.

steveklabnik 3y ago
Thanks for the context! I use Matrix daily, so I am interested in these details, I just haven't found the time to dig into things yet.
Ericson2314 3y ago
The ideal situation is that BlueSky and Matrix (/Element, let's be real) are giving hoards of money and are dancing around each other in a daring game of adversarial interop. I want a Cold War-scale federation competition, dammit! :)
- Arathorn 3y ago
  I would love both BlueSky & Matrix (and/or Element) to be given hoards of money and for us to race each other to the best federation imaginable (and then bridge it all together and live happily ever after)

ianopolous 3y ago

To be clear, strong account portability predates Bluesky by ~5 years. Peergos[0], as reviewed by Jay before Bluesky Inc was created, has had this for years: https://book.peergos.org/features/migration.html https://book.peergos.org/features/migration.html So they didn't actually need to go their own way. [0] https://github.com/peergos/peergos https://github.com/peergos/peergos