I think that’s where our world views vary. If you kill 20 people with a car into a parade, you have no chance at rehabilitation. Punishment is perfectly accept

I think that’s where our world views vary. If you kill 20 people with a car into a parade, you have no chance at rehabilitation. Punishment is perfectly acceptable - especially when it is hardly brutal, we aren’t even sending the perp to an oil rig. The sooner we stop playing games about prisons being rehab facilities, the better. I have yet to hear a successful prison rehab story, and the statistics show that doesn’t work. When punishment is the focus - look at the 80s crime wave. It worked. I think it’s because I know that there is no way, whatsoever, to build a society without prisons, because there will always be crime.