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I think you deeply overestimate people's ability to make painful near-term decisions to avoid long-term pain that they can't see, have never personally experien
by dpe82 3y ago
I think you deeply overestimate people's ability to make painful near-term decisions to avoid long-term pain that they can't see, have never personally experienced and also nobody they know or have even heard of has personally experienced.
It's human nature; we're extremely bad at making decisions related to seemingly abstract long-term problems.
- r14c 3y agoPeople can make long term plans and execute them, but the systems that control the levers related to climate change are operated by people who don't habitually operate based on long term planning. Calling it "human nature" is a cop-out.
- dpe82 3y agoFor themsleves? Some people can, sometimes. For the commons? If humans were so naturally inclined we wouldn't be having this conversation. Blaming the problem on "people who don't habitually operate based on long term planning" is a likewise a cop-out while also kinda arguing my point.
- r14c 3y agoI think there's a certain cultural movement that has been propagated violently across the world that rewards and requires such behavior. there are many enduring cultural traditions that teach patience and long term planning. "human nature" is complex, we naturally can do both honestly.
- richrichie 3y agoHow about you be the beacon of change and show us by taking the near term pain e.g. cutting down consumption (eat one meal a day of vegetables, stop traveling, stop taking vacations far away, live in a one room apt, no kids, etc.
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- defrost 3y agoWinyarn small minded thinking there. Makes more sense to recover energy from moving almost a billion tonnes per annum from plateau to sea level. https://reneweconomy.com.au/fortescue-says-regenerative-infinity-train-may-be-on-tracks-in-two-years/ https://reneweconomy.com.au/fortescue-says-regenerative-infi... .. but keep up those tiny thoughts, one day they might grow.