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1) I support prison abolition, yes. 2) What is or isn't de facto slavery is worth discussing but we should certainly move towards removing de jure slavery. 3)
by giraffe_lady 3y ago
1) I support prison abolition, yes.
2) What is or isn't de facto slavery is worth discussing but we should certainly move towards removing de jure slavery.
3) I don't know the intention of framers of the constitution in choosing the word slavery, but it is the word they chose. So unless you mean "reactionary" very very literally, using it to describe advocates for a progressive cause interpreting a word well within its historically normative meaning is at best slick rhetorical judo. At worst an indication of bad faith.
- gjsman-1000 3y ago1) And just like that, you’ve never been a victim of a violent assault. I don’t wish anything on anyone, but your worldview completely changes when it happens to you. 2) Isn’t being forced to literally be in a cage for years de jure slavery by itself?
- effingwewt 3y ago1- Bullshit I've been in several and still firmly believe in rehabilitation, as do many. Some victims and families even forgive murderers. 2- You are purposefully conflating imprisonment with slavery.
- giraffe_lady 3y agoIDK what it is about this subject that makes people think they know me. You don't know anything about me, about what kind of life I've lived. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39275721 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39275721 I think there is a difference between keeping people confined against their will and coercing them to labor for your own economic benefit. Neither thing should be permitted, but I'm not trying to solve all problems overnight. We were talking about the laboring thing, let's stick to that. I see elsewhere that you have complete confidence in your view about this, with no room for doubt or curiosity. If you can't entertain the possibility of being anything but an adversary, then I can't justify spending more time or effort on this subject with you.